Is the bible true?how do you really know?what do you believe is God?

HI Sacrel

Does God exist, well who knows. Depend on what is meant by God. If it's the God that people have developed as a projection of their ideal self or parents to gain some comfort or control, I'm not into that. That's to me is just supertitious mumbo jumbo. If God is considered to be a name for the nameless, the ineffable(sp) background presence, collective universal consciousness, the source of everything that has been and will be, to use one of my favourite terms, the TAO, then yeh that's fine by me. Also if there is a God, the male principle, then there has to be a Goddess, the female principle. Can't have Yin without the Yang.

As for the bible. The word testament comes from the root word that testicles come from, and that's what I think about it. Yes of course there are pearls of wisdom in the bible, but so there is in other books. Yes of course there is hidden esoteric information, but so there is in other books. At the end of the day it's just a book. I feel that someone that develops a genuine spirituality and has a open heart will take and understand what they need to know from any book or system.

Going back to the subject of God. I recently watched a video on Youtube by a Theravedin Buddhist monk called Ajarn Brahm. He made an interesting statement about once people believed in many gods, then one god, and Buddhism came along believing in no god.

Best Wishes

The Pixie

Hello Everyone 🙂

I always wondered how people come to believe what they believe?? :confused:
Does everyone think the bible is true?, How do you know?.... I mean HOW DO YOU KNOW, FOR SURE?.
Did you not ever question your strong hold belief on the bible?.
Have you ever considered that the disciples may have written in the bible through the ego’s fear, because some of its reading is …well really quite frightening of what God might do if you disobey.
I said to myself” Can an all loving god be this way to his creations?” Now a vengeful God- I don’t believe. :022:
I was strongly brought up with the teachings of the bible on my own accord, yet my way of seeing the bible is now somewhat “different”.
I don’t disbelieve in God ( As I believe God is to me). I believe God is all loving. all powerful, all divine, peace, just everything so beautiful no words can describe…..I wonder what could make people dis believe?..I hope my asking gives a sort of view to meaningful answers and discussions between everyone.

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(A reply from a post carried on from” Healing? A False Illusion?”I felt was a good time to move to. I hope the correct place.) Healing? A False Illusion? Continues though.

Hello Maure

Welcome to HP by the way. You present some interesting beliefs.
I am not really a religious person (Too much control).
But do see God as pure love, yet maybe in a different light (pardon the pun)
Since the illusion post strayed into Gods way I thought it might be better to post in “I think”, is the correct forum.

I wanted to reply with some questions maybe you could or anyone else could bring clarity too?. Often a discussion on God brings a good gathering and I find it amazing the different beliefs.

Quotes: Maure

Illusion???? Im disillusioned by some, God is the Father, therefore male.
We give birth, we do not 'create' God is the Creator of all.
The bible is neither fiction nor fable, its is Truth....
and the truth can be hard to hear sometimes.
But He loves you, despite your harsh speaking against Him.
Servant of Christ.

Illusion???? Im disillusioned by some, God is the Father
(I agree),

Therefore male
( mmm?) .

We give birth,
( I agree.)

We do not 'create' God is the Creator of all.
( I agree. God is the creator of all, if we are made in the likeness of God and we are everything that God is, then are we not (lets call us then: God little creators also?):o)

The bible is neither fiction nor fable, its is Truth...
.( oooh now there’s a question! Although I love the bible, it can seem harsh in places!. that questions if it is teaching love and truth, was it written by disciples who are subjected to their ego as everyone else? Therefore influenced their writings, You know like: God will send you to hell and all this stuff! . Were they writing from the ego’s influence of fear?, don’t know? )

the truth can be hard to hear sometimes.
(Yes, the illusion can block our awareness beyond the veil to hear Gods call)

But He loves you,
(That much is certain):nature-smiley-008:

despite your harsh speaking against Him.
( ??? )

Servant of Christ.
(Does Christ see us all as his servants in the way that we think?. Does Christ belittle his brothers and sisters by telling them they are below him as servants?.
Did Christ not spread the message of love teaching people how to love him and each other? And teaches us that we too are like him, but did not believe. maybe?
For through Christ God shows his love to us!
Does God not teach us that we are free and there is no need to suffer?
Would Christ have us as his servants as a way to love him?.
I don’t know, maybe these questions others maybe able to answer! )

Or maybe I am thinking on a wrong track?:confused:

Would be interesting to read how everyone holds out and stands by their belief.

Just my opinion.(Or is it an illusion?);)

Blessings to everyone

Sacrel

I am a born again Christian that I know for sure and its real as I was there when it happened to me, on the 25th Dec 2002 at 3pm.
I found myself in the presence of Christ Jesus, and I asked 3 requests, now dont go thinking they were wishes or something like that please, that'd be way off the track, perhaps I was unsure, I dont really know, I hadnt heard about Godly things since Sunday School and that would have been over 30something years prior.

I asked, if He would heal my 31yr broken marraige, headed for divorce court, I was living at one of my sons at the time, my husband had always told me never to become a Christian or he'd leave me, but I trusted Jesus with that, and guess what.....the husband stayed.

I asked, for a new life, as I was done with the one I had, worn it out, had had enough of it, going to pubs, drinking thinking it was good, now I see it wasnt at all.

I asked Him to save me, I was on a downward spiral, going faster, I needed lifted up and He did do.

I can say all these were answered, yes, I surely can. Only thing I did omit though and it was so important but I never knew as I had never been over a church door, only for weddings and funerals, so I didnt really remember the Gospel, Repentance I had to ask forgiveness for my sins, because I was a sinner, but am now a sinner saved by grace.

This is a very short testimony, and TESTAMENT is a COVENANT of agreement with legal standing for Reiki Pixie.

I know Ive not answered your questions Sacrel as you have many, but for one the Disciples, were called by Jesus, to spread the Word, sent into all the world, that is why we have the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ, a servant, not as how you are thinking a servant is, there is no 'ranking' in the church of God, that is His people, not a building.
To serve Christ is not a duty, but an honour.
It is better felt, than telt, as they say, it is better to know for yourself than for anyone to try and tell you about it.

My husband is still not saved yet, but he will be, I know it, he goes to church with me every week, has been for the past, nearly 4 years now, but he just wont take that step of faith, it can be hard, I just didnt count any cost, some do which then they think makes it hard and it takes courage to step out in faith....God grant courage please.

I have learned that Jesus paid the ultimate cost, He gave His own life for our sin, He became our sacrifice, blood had to be shed, but He laid down His life for us, no one took it from Him, yes it is still very relevent today, as some still do say I will not have this man to reign over me, they have no time or place in their heart for Him, or they just dont believe.
That is sad, I always believed in God, thanks to my Mum sending me to Sunday School, even though I didnt want to go, it taught me some little thing which was just enough then for me in later years to take that step without even knowing I was stepping, if you can understand it, Im only sorry I didnt do it when I was much younger, but that I cant change.

I got saved then I went to church, my husband is doing it the opposite way round, going to church first, Im glad I just went in for it without hesitation. As seven years on, I wouldnt go back to that other life for anything.

The bible was written by men who were inspired by God to put down in writing what they were being told in the Spirit. and of course they also witnessed it themselves, and they walked so close to Him.
The bible is the inspired word of God, it is truth and the truth will set you free.

I hope you can glean something from what Ive wrote, Sacrel and any others who do read this.
I just want to live my life for Christ, as its the best life I've known, the peace and contentment it brings is undiscribable.

God has wrath, it does make Him angry to see that what he created has turned against Him, doing all sorts of things we were never intented to do.
We are not His children, if we disobey His word.
But He has also allowed us a choice, to choose Christ or reject Him, and on Judgement Day we shall be asked, 'what did you do with Jesus?'
What will be your answer Sacrel, I hope and pray you will be able to say, I choose Him as my Saviour.

with much love to you Sacrel and all others.
There is much more I could write but dont want to over do it.

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Love and peace,

Judy