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Dance of the Lord

Leonardo · 2004-05-17T00:04:00Z

Hi All, Some time ago, there was a thread that dealt with those songs that had meant a great deal spiritualy to us. I put 'Lord of the Dance' as my elect. I have been dreamily (it's late) thumbing through Google and came across references to 'The Dancing Saviour'. These in turn led me to the Gnostic Gospel of the Acts of John and the following Hymn of Jesus, performed, according to John in the from of a ringed dance. I give you The Hymn of the Lord Which He Sang in Secret to the Holy Apostles, His Disciples XCVI Now before he was taken by the lawless Jews, who also were governed by the lawless serpent, he gathered all of us together and said: Before I am delivered up unto them let us sing an hymn to the Father, and so go forth to that which lieth before us. He bade us therefore make as it were a ring, holding one another's hands, and himself standing in the midst he said: Answer Amen unto me. He began, then, to sing an hymn and to say: Glory be to thee, Father. And we, going about in a ring, answered him: Amen. Glory be to thee, Word: Glory be to thee, Grace. Amen. Glory be to thee, Spirit: Glory be to thee, Holy One: Glory be to thy glory. Amen. We praise thee, O Father; we give thanks to thee, O Light, wherein darkness dwelleth not. Amen. Now whereas we give thanks, I say: I would be saved, and I would save. Amen. I would be loosed, and I would loose. Amen. I would be wounded, and I would wound. Amen. I would be born, and I would bear. Amen. I would eat, and I would be eaten. Amen. I would hear, and I would be heard. Amen. I would be thought, being wholly thought. Amen. I would be washed, and I would wash. Amen. Grace danceth. I would pipe; dance ye all. Amen. I would mourn: lament ye all. Amen. The number Eight (ogdoad) singeth praise with us. Amen. The number Twelve danceth on high. Amen. The Whole on high hath part in our dancing. Amen. Whoso danceth not, knoweth not what cometh to pass. Amen. I would flee, and I would stay. Amen. I would adorn, and I would be adorned. Amen. I would be united, and I would unite. Amen. A house I have not, and I have houses. Amen. A place I have not, and I have places. Amen. A temple I have not, and I have temples. Amen. A lamp am I to thee that beholdest me. Amen. A mirror am I to thee that perceivest me. Amen. A door am I to thee that knockest at me. Amen. A way am I to thee a wayfarer. . Now answer thou unto my dancing. Behold thyself in me who speak, and seeing what I do, keep silence about my mysteries. Thou that dancest, perceive what I do, for thine is this passion of the manhood, which I am about to suffer. For thou couldest not at all have understood what thou sufferest if I had not been sent unto thee, as the word of the Father. Thou that sawest what I suffer sawest me as suffering, and seeing it thou didst not abide but wert wholly moved, moved to make wise. Thou hast me as a bed, rest upon me. Who I am, thou shalt know when I depart. What now I am seen to be, that I am not. Thou shalt see when thou comest. If thou hadst known how to suffer, thou wouldest have been able not to suffer. Learn thou to suffer, and thou shalt be able not to suffer. What thou knowest not, I myself will teach thee. Thy God am I, not the God of the traitor. I would keep tune with holy souls. In me know thou the word of wisdom. Again with me say thou: Glory be to thee, Father; Glory to thee, Word; Glory to thee, Holy Spirit. And if thou wouldst know concerning me, what I was, know that with a word did I deceive all things and I was no whit deceived. I have leaped: but do t

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astra

May 28, 2004 7:31 pm

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RE: Dance of the Lord

The Dervish pracitise of a whirling meditation 'dance' which I've seen done by a group of men I used to know is very exciting to watch as the energy becomes charged

Many Sufi schools use movement and dance as part of their spiritual endeavors. In fact, it appears that all indigenous cultures have used sacred dance to reverence the Divine and to facilitate ecstatic states. Recent research indicates that Jesus taught the Apostles to dance to the Aramaic phrases of the Lord's Prayer. The movie director Franco Zefferelli depicts this in his film "Jesus of Nazareth."
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sharonmijares/ruha.htm .

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May 28, 2004 7:38 pm

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RE: Dance of the Lord

Ah, yes, Astra, a dear friend of mine is learning Reiki with a Sufi Master, ( or is that Master Reiki with a Sufi, sorry) and she is also being taught the dancing which apparently can go hand in hand with this form of Reiki. She tells me it is freeing and enlightening.

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Jun 17, 2004 3:47 pm

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Dear Gillyann

that sounds truly wonderful

it is fantastic that people from all races, cultures and religions are teaching Reiki around the globe and adding their own love to what I call the love vibration.

The Sufi's sure do seem to come from the heart of GOD and I am most impressed!

We live in exciting times when all paths are bringing us together in oneness with the source.

Love beyond measure

dancing divine

kim xx

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Jun 22, 2004 9:06 pm

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dear all

this seems to be the appropriate thread as master Jesus sings about his suffering.
Venetian infers on another thread that Jesus did not suffer from human emotion because he was not human. From the above song and from other gospels that I have read this is clearly not the case and Hugo thought it would be interesting to discuss this further.

got to go

Love beyond measure

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Jun 28, 2004 6:46 pm

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RE: Dance of the Lord

Interesting that Shiva also known as Lord of the Dance

Shiva as Lord of the Dance color
SOURCE: Steven Kossak, The Arts of South and Southeast Asia, (New York: Metropolitan Museum of Art, nd. repr. from Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin (Spring 1994)), p.45

DESCRIPTION:Shiva as Lord of Dance (Nataraja). Copper alloy, 26 7/7 in high.
PROVENANCE: India (Tamil Nadu), Chola period, circa late 11th century CE. MMA item no 1987.80.1
[This has nothing to do with Chinese culture, but this is a classic case where, without any background, the image is simply impressive, but with a little background it becomes overwhelming. The background here is that Shiva is not just dancing, but treading down on evil and, literally, offering up a foot for human beings to hold onto. In other words, it is a salvation icon!]

I have a poster of this purchased at the Musuem of Religion in Glasgow which is well worth a visit. A friend and I spent hours there.

being love

kim xx

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