RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
Hi Venetian
You said
"The usual belief, globally, is that while freedom from the rounds of reincarnation is attainable and the goal of life in one sense, it isn't as easy as this "Quan Yin Method" which appears to be simply meditation with basic morality combined? (Not much of a leap for a spiritually-inclined person.) "
Yes, that was what I was getting at, but you put this much better than I could!
Hi Siggy
You said
"Yes, I find the whole 'supreme master' title gets stuck in my throat. I was always taught that being called a 'master' has nothing to do with being a master over other people but that they were a master of themselves. That being said if I was a master simply because I had mastered myself why would I insist on others calling me master? I wouldn't be a master over them, so how would I justify them having to use that title? "
There might be something lost in translation here. I know that in some parts of the East, 'master' has a slightly different meaning to the one we understand in the UK. In Japan, 'sensei' means master or teacher, for example. It's a title used to show polite respect e.g. if your teacher is called Bob Smith here in England, you'd call him Mr Smith (or Sensei Smith?!!) as a sign of respect. It doesn't necessarily mean that you think yourself inferior to him.
Also
"My mind has gone blank now - too much thinking"
Yup, I know THAT feeling well! LOL! 🙂
And
" I thought how could I question anything she says since my third eye is not open, I am unable to see the truth and she is so how can I question her?
How do we know that she is enlightened though? I mean is there even a way to prove such things? This is why I worry about the word 'enlightened'. "
How about taking the Buddha's advice and trying it? If it works then use it, if it doesn't then forget it and try something else. The quote goes something like 'be a light unto yourself' - don't take anyone else's word for it, try it for yourself.
Thanks for a really interesting discussion!
Helen
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
>>There might be something lost in translation here. I know >>that in some parts of the East, 'master' has a slightly >>different meaning to the one we understand in the UK.
i know Chinese and Asian culture very well
"Supreme Master" is really beyond the "Mr" meaning,
beyond ALL masters
>>trying it? If it works then use it, if it doesn't then forget it >>and try something else.
i think it is not a "work or not work" problem.
There are thousands of paths, each will "work" to a certain degrees.
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
Vrindavan,
I guess what I meant to say was 'if it works for you'.
Helen
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
Helen
i will not just test out a method but not observe the teacher.
i will look at both the teacher and the method
Even you like this method/path very much, this meditation method is not exclusive to "Ching Hai" as she claimed.
RE: Quan Yin Method Supreme Master Ching Hai
Vrindavan
When I use the word 'it' I mean it in the most general sense. E.g. when I say "try it and see if it works for you" I'm refering to a path, a teacher, a practice, a method, a philosophy...whatever you want.
So I agree with you about checking out the method and the teacher.
Helen