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purplepeach
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your point about personal notes at home - dont they have to be available to a client as well?
I would be really uncomfortable if I thought/knew a therapist was writing stuff about me that I did not have access to.

My thoughts on that comment, are 'tough' I can keep private messages to myself if I want to and, no, they would not be available to the client. The client would not know they existed. You said that you would be uncomfortable at the thought. I worked in a GP's surgery years ago and the nurses used to keep personal notes on the patients, so we knew who were timewasters and who were not. It happens everywhere.

I'd be extremely concerned about the option of keeping 2 sets of notes, one for patients to see, and one for your own use. So would any potential solicitors if you were ever in that situation.

As for the above comment. Please don't make it sound as if I am keeping two sets of records on clients, just in case i'm sued or a case goes to court. That's a little over reacting to what I actually said. I said that I keep my notes in a professional manner and I write nothing in them that I would like to client to see. What I meant was if you want to write anything personal that you think may distress a client, either 'dont' or keep it to yourself. NOT TWO SETS OF FULL NOTES don't be ridiculous. I could'nt be bothered to be honest to do that.


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Healistic
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My thoughts on that comment, are 'tough' I can keep private messages to myself if I want to and, no, they would not be available to the client. The client would not know they existed. You said that you would be uncomfortable at the thought. I worked in a GP's surgery years ago and the nurses used to keep personal notes on the patients, so we knew who were timewasters and who were not. It happens everywhere.



It does not happen everywhere. IMO you are wrong to do what you do, in fact if I ever found out that a therapist or nurse kept private notes about me that I could not see I would certainly see a solicitor about it.
I have to say that the word ‘tough’ In your quote fills me with concern.


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LavenderRose
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Have you had no support from your school over this one? As they are teaching you, they should know - not only to protect you but also to protect othter students that this woman might go to. She seems to want something for nothing, and also she doesn't trust that anyone is telling her the truth.

They should also answer the DP questions - esp as to how much personal info they want and how much detail.


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Patchouli
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My thoughts on that comment, are 'tough' I can keep private messages to myself if I want to and, no, they would not be available to the client. The client would not know they existed. You said that you would be uncomfortable at the thought. I worked in a GP's surgery years ago and the nurses used to keep personal notes on the patients, so we knew who were timewasters and who were not. It happens everywhere.

Hi PP

As a qualified nurse of 20 odd years I can categorically say that I have never, evr came across any nurse (or doc) who kept "private" notes....just should not happen.

If the NMC or GMC (in the case of docs) ever got wind of thgat it would result in the person being immediately struck off, no two ways about it.

ANY notes are available for a client/patients perusal.....that is law.

Patchouli


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BIA
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your point about personal notes at home - dont they have to be available to a client as well?
I would be really uncomfortable if I thought/knew a therapist was writing stuff about me that I did not have access to.

My thoughts on that comment, are 'tough' I can keep private messages to myself if I want to and, no, they would not be available to the client. The client would not know they existed. You said that you would be uncomfortable at the thought. I worked in a GP's surgery years ago and the nurses used to keep personal notes on the patients, so we knew who were timewasters and who were not. It happens everywhere.

you are perfectly entitle to keep information on which patients are likely to not turn up, who might need reminder phone calls etc, but that's all part of the patient record, and is entitled to be there, it does not need to be kept private from the patient; in fact, if you are doing this, or know someone else who is doing this; then I suggest you seriously reconsider your position, or mention to them that they are breaking the law (ignorance of the law is no excuse)

I'd be extremely concerned about the option of keeping 2 sets of notes, one for patients to see, and one for your own use. So would any potential solicitors if you were ever in that situation

As for the above comment. Please don't make it sound as if I am keeping two sets of records on clients, just in case i'm sued or a case goes to court. That's a little over reacting to what I actually said. I said that I keep my notes in a professional manner and I write nothing in them that I would like to client to see. What I meant was if you want to write anything personal that you think may distress a client, either 'dont' or keep it to yourself. NOT TWO SETS OF FULL NOTES don't be ridiculous. I could'nt be bothered to be honest to do that.

If I made it sound that way, I sincerely apologise; however, you made it sound like you're keeping information about patients away from anything the patient can see - that's strictlu illegal.
If you want to write something personal that may distress the patient, then write it in the patient's notes; writting it elsewhere is illegal. The chances are the patient will never see their notes, and the notes are meant to reflect fact, and thoguhts exptrapolated from fact; the patient may not want to be told that they're overweight or depressed, or that their lifestyle is hurting them, but that doesn't make it untrue, and it needs to be noted.
If you belong to a regulatory body of any description, I suggest you look at the rules. If you hold data about patient, then you are required to register with the information commissioner ([url]website link[/url]); and you are required to obey the law.
I never meant to imply that you were keeping a full set of notes at home; but if you include so much as a patient's name without their permission, then you are breaking the law.
The fraction of sentence I've highlighted from you is almost certainly a typo, but is accurate for what you claim to do.


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