Unfortunately, because of members being unable to properly identify quotes, I am now totally lost as to who is saying what and to whom. Venetian, whom are you addressing please in your post above?
Whatever.
I'd just like to point out however that although the point of forums such as HP may well be to dialogue (is it?), what usually happens is that most people come on and state what they believe. We might occasionally ask that the odd IMO or even IMHO gets thrown in, but mostly it's 'This is what I believe therefore this is what is.' It's surely not a problem, V? You yourself have been known to proclaim yourself right and the others wrong in many a thread. We all do it. Don't get snappy about it. The thread is fine and would be interesting if only I, a bear of little brain, could get my head around it all. As it is, I don't have strong feelings either way about evolution versus creationism. It's just a simple miracle to me and that's enough.
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The thread is fine and would be interesting if only I, a bear of little brain, could get my head around it all. As it is, I don't have strong feelings either way about evolution versus creationism. It's just a simple miracle to me and that's enough.
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As I understand it:
There is a strong body of evidence from fossil record and DNA studies that there are many species of plant/animal that are now extinct but which bear strong links to modern plants/animals.
The development of new species (evolution) takes place over such a large period of time that we don't actually see these changes happening (except in species such as bacteria & insects whose life cycles are much shorter than other species)
Most evolutionary theories are based on the principle that random changes in a species DNA (mutations) which make it more suited to it's environment (and therefore more able to reproduce) are accumulated through interbreeding (commonly referred to as 'survival of the fittest') and eventually these small changes give rise to a new species which is distinct from it's ancestors.
I think that the viewpoint that 'we're here and that's all that matters' is a very good one but also acknowledge that to investigate philosophically, scientifically or spiritually the origins and development of life can be a useful exercise, both in helping to more fully understanding our 'place in things' and increasing the pool of human knowledge.
However, for the process to maintain any dignity and 'worth' it is beholden upon people to respect each others viewpoint and not adopt an adversarial approach - many things in science which have been held as 'undisputable facts' are now known to have been incorrect, and similarly many aspects of spiritual and mystic wisdom which have been dismissed as 'rubbish' are now thought to have a significant and positive place in our lives.
I have studied and practised 'hard science' for about 30 years and the more I look the more I see that the only real boundaries between science and, for want of a better word, mysticism are the words used and the rituals/processes adopted........
....all IMO of course 😉
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Hey, … I’m gonna kick back and contemplate what I’ve read in this thread…
I’ve got my Higgs-Boson Flask with me guys;
…err anyone for a cup of ‘Elan Vital’? 🙂
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Unfortunately, because of members being unable to properly identify quotes, I am now totally lost as to who is saying what and to whom. Venetian, whom are you addressing please in your post above?
Hi Sunanda. I was out and unable to get online for hours, so didn't see that I'd missed an endquote. It's now corrected.
(I would comment - that it's endlessly difficult to extract quotes from posts when typefaces or sizes and colours are changed. When you click on "quote", what comes up in your reply box is often nigh-indecipherable. I did my best, and had to go before checking the post. 🙂 )
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Unfortunately, because of members being unable to properly identify quotes, I am now totally lost as to who is saying what and to whom.
Oh, I see, looking back. It was actually Boson Higgs who hadn't put an endquote on his quote of Muzone. So my quote of the whole was hard to follow. I've now put in Higgs's missing endquote. 🙂 This is in post 25.
V