Yet Another Form Of Evidence
Nice find, Tandiwe, I so-far got to 25 minutes in.
So there was a press conference held by the US National Press Club, in which quite a number of senior and mid-level US military personnel whose jobs had been to do with nuclear facilities (nuclear missile silos and missile and bomb storage) recount their UFO experiences whilst on the job.
Skeptics will find an explanation for all this as well? As if these men didn't know their job? I got up to the account of the man (missed his name) whose job for years involved verifying positioning at night by means of knowing the night sky - star observation. I'd think he'd tell the diference between a 50-foot glowing disc or sphere moving at incredible speeds, and anything else such as "Venus" or an aircraft. In any case, it scared them all so much that they got into their truck and literally fled; "We weren't about to be there if it came back".
The conference so far tells of "frightened guards", simultaneous radar coverage of some of the UFOs, and interestingly, Charles Halt gives his account at last of what he knows happened at Bentwaters, East Anglia, the UK's most famous UFO incident, on several nights in December 1980. Halt was Deputy Commander of the major nuclear weapons base in 1980. When the fact he'd written a watered-down memo came to light several years later he said, "Burn it!" It's interesting as sometimes researchers "see" official cover-up, when the cover-up may be more personal. Clearly, Halt's concern was just to protect his career or to escape intense personal media attention.
Bentwaters has been a series of events hard to get clarity about. Halt's testimony goes a good way toward clarifying what actually happened on at least one of the nights. On a previous night, a triangular craft of dark metallic appearance was encountered at very low level, he says.
What the reports I've seen so far all have in common is a UFO interest into military nuclear facilities. And in some instances the silos were rendered electrically inoperable, and had to be repaired? As to the reasons for the UFOs' interest, I too am wary of projecting human-type motives when it would be purely speculation.
As Capt. Robert Salas states, it's surely a matter that's serious and which impacts on national security when nuclear weapons facilities are being tampered with by unidentified flying objects under intelligent control?
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Hi everyone. Has anybody seen this film 'The Day Before Disclosure'? It's in a similar format to What The Bleep Do We Know and the first two parts are what we basically already know but part three is really interesting
http://www.thedaybeforedisclosure.com/
Love and light
reikiangel
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I haven't, Reikiangel, no....
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Hi everyone. Has anybody seen this film 'The Day Before Disclosure'? It's in a similar format to What The Bleep Do We Know and the first two parts are what we basically already know but part three is really interesting
http://www.thedaybeforedisclosure.com/
Love and light
reikiangel
xxx
On your recommendation, as each part looks about half an hour long, I just went straight for Part Three. Which I do recommend! This is probably not known by many folks, but it's a good summary of the deeper end of ufology. I won't give it all away, but some bits I could cite, or comments I'd make on it, are:
* In summary, as one ex-US Army chief said, "The top people know this reality, essentially, but the masses don't". It reminds me of when a researcher into Bentwaters caught Margaret Thatcher a bit off-guard at a dinner party and asked her about UFOs. Thatcher replied, "Yes, but you can't tell the people!" - and then got called away.
* Relevant to much of this HP thread, it goes into the fact that in recent years there's been a great growth in people having video cams, and phone cams, so there are now many more images taken; but that however the ability to fake moving images has also grown, so to a degree the latter balances out the former. (Re YouTube etc.) I don't accept this entirely, and there's NASA footage, etc. Ah - but that's not recent from phone cams is it?!
* That the global intelligence community/communities and mainstream media share a relationship. So even a spectacular incident may be reported in a local paper, but won't go on to be reported in national or global news. (This is true.) So people say "But surely we'd have heard?" - not understanding how the media works.
* An example used was CNN featuring Dr Edgar Mitchell of Apollo 14, who walked on the moon, fully supporting that UFOs visit earth. CNN then gave equal time to two stupid kids showing how they 'launch' helium or hot air (?) balloons, of the size you hold in your hands, after which the newscasters make fun of it all. How could they compare Mitchell to two silly boys?
* Astronaut Gordon Cooper, now deceased, had to wait until he was retired, but then attested to encountering a UFO in space at close range. He attested that every day unknown controlled craft are viewed on radar, but the fact is withheld. [Edit to add: but I looked into this in next post below.]
We get into areas which skeptics, who know so little, may have closed eyes and ears to. But I've read the data, books, and many papers on the rest, and know that the evidence is there ...
* Tens of thousands of Americans have told doctors, researchers and usually psychologists, usually under hypnotic regression (not always) of being abducted. The programme goes into WHY. (The purpose for the many abductions.) It's not an American phenomenon, but global. (It's not statistically concentrated on the USA.)
* Numerous prestigious labs have now examined recovered bodily implants, implanted into humans. These tend to be half-mineral, half-biological. Their make-up and construction is extraordinary, and not of this earth. Perhaps this is the most compelling evidence of all; skeptics, reading the actual data, can have no return address to these findings.
Now, the theme. IS this, "The Day Before Disclosure?" That governments, or the aliens themselves, will now soon reveal all? Just IMHO the discolure has to come in the end, and it's likely to be very gradual. IMHO it will not be soon, no. I've been looking in on this subject as a deep hobby at times for so long, and this prediction has been made since the 1970s. We are now 30-40 years on, with no real sign at all that it's going to happen. Don't hold your breath.
Do "governments" even know the truth? The word "government" is used quite a bit in the prog. PMs and presidents come and go quickly. Some may have known: I tend to think many, perhaps most, never did while in office. So those who "know" IMHO are the abiding military-industrial elite who are always there, never voted out. Moreover, I'm skeptical about how much they do know. They may or may not have bodies and craft; they likely have no worthwhile contact - just IMHO.
A very good summary of the subject once one gets beyond just sightings and into deeper things. Thanks for giving the link!
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Astronaut Gordon Cooper and UFOs.
Hmm, after seeing the link from Reikiangel I looked this up.
He evidently had UFO sightings. He had some before he went into space, as a test-pilot. He's talked about seeing over several days "several hundred, flying in formation like we do".
This link mentions the test-pilot sighting and others, and he spoke to the UN about UFOs. No mention of the encounter in space:
http://www.openminds.tv/gordon-cooper-ufo-080210/
He had involvement in a UFO landing at a USAF base:
This was filmed by a USAF camerman who "moved towards it". As always, where's the film?
Ah-ha. An interview by OMNI Magazine with Cooper seems to tell the tale. He's seen UFOs, knows of the landing cited above, believes in them, but says that the claims of astronaut encounters are made up:
OMNI: What about the repeated allegations that the astronauts saw many UFOs?
COOPER: It got so bad that there were deliberately falsified tapes of communications with the astronauts, where UFO material was simply edited in. To my knowledge, the only astronaut on any of the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo missions who ever saw anything that might have been a UFO was Jim McDivitt, but he didn't get enough pictures to prove anything substantial. That's the only case, in spite of all the stories you hear.
[Venetian: But he's at least missing Buzz Aldrin's claim to have seen one.]
OMNI: Didn't you go after some UFOs as an air force pilot in Germany in the 1950s?
COOPER: [COLOR="Blue"]Yes, several days in a row we sighted groups of metallic, saucer-shaped vehicles at great altitudes over the base, and we tried to get close to them, but they were able to change direction faster than our fighters. I do believe UFOs exists and that the truly unexplained ones are from some other technologically advanced civilization. From my association with aircraft and spacecraft, I think I have a pretty good idea of what everyone on this planet has and their performance capabilities, and I'm sure some of the UFOs at least are not from anywhere on Earth.
OMNI: Aren't you concerned about the reaction of people who may read this?
COOPER: I've always been honest about my views on this subject. Because the astronauts have been so badly misquoted by irresponsible journalists,
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc526.htm
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