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Hi Scommstech

Can you expand on "energy healing" , "energy workers", and The "universal consciousness which holds reality together". I'm interested to see how theses concepts blend with others.

It is a vast subject on its own, but put in as simple a way as possible, everything is thought or consciousness, energy workers/healers work with the creative power of consciousness to manipulate things around us.

What we perceive as a physical reality, is just dense energy, everything is always moving or vibrating, consciousness is another level of vibration which we are all a part of.

Hope that helps.

Hi Norbu

mmm... Isn't consciousness dependent on a subject that is self aware and an object of perception?

No that is back to front, you can create awareness but you can't create consciousness, consciousness is not physical, our consciousness is separate to our physicality, that is why we come here to create and experience another level of awareness, you can't experience giving someone a hug if you are a being of pure consciousness and have not got a body to hug them with 😉

If someone has no sense of purpose, what would their experience be like do you think?

Lots of people just exist here but that is their choice, they can be and experience so much more if they would only stop and think outside of what they have been told they should do and be, that is what being creative is all about 😉


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Hi Paul,

No that is back to front, you can create awareness but you can't create consciousness, consciousness is not physical, our consciousness is separate to our physicality, that is why we come here to create and experience another level of awareness, you can't experience giving someone a hug if you are a being of pure consciousness and have not got a body to hug them with 😉

This is from the Mirriam Webster online dictionary.

Main Entry: con·scious·ness
Pronunciation: -n?s
Function: noun
Date: 1629
1 a : the quality or state of being aware especially of something within oneself b : the state or fact of being conscious of an external object, state, or fact

I'm not saying that consciousness is physical, I'm just saying that I think it is very hard to think of consciousness without some kind of notion of an observer, process of observing and object of observation.

Lots of people just exist here but that is their choice, they can be and experience so much more if they would only stop and think outside of what they have been told they should do and be, that is what being creative is all about 😉

Surely you are just being a bit prescriptive with your definition of "purpose." People's sense of purpose may be more or less enlightened that's all.

Norbu


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Hi Norbu

I'm not saying that consciousness is physical, I'm just saying that I think it is very hard to think of consciousness without some kind of notion of an observer, process of observing and object of observation.

That is a physical definition of consciousness, in the realms of pure consciousness all is one, so what is there to observe?


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Hi Paul,

That is a physical definition of consciousness,...

Well, it's dictionary definition of it! I'm lost as to where the "physical" bit comes into it?

... in the realms of pure consciousness all is one, so what is there to observe?

Well, surely, if all is one, there is not subject nor object, no action, no perception, no process, no change, no relationship, no point of reference, no space between, no experience, there can't be no "nothing at all," not even consciousness!

Norbu


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Hi Norbu

Most of your last post is true, but consciousness still remains when we take everything else out of the equation, it is just a different level of consciousness to the one we perceive time, distance and matter with, so if we remove time, distance and matter, then we are left with what we started with, pure consciousness.

All is one, in order for the one to become aware of itself, it needs to fractionate and manifest into various forms and ways, each part of the whole is then unique but must remain an integral part of the whole on one level of our consciousness.

The model of consciousness which we use is a three level one, there might be a lot more but three levels of consciousness works well for our healing and personal development work.


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