Hi Judy
Are you talking about metaphysics which is in reality philosophy or thought into action, now I understand that there has been scientific studies done to validate what some people can do with their thoughts, remote scanning, esp etc. but science can only validate the effect, not validate the mechanics of what goes on to cause the effect.
It is the same with energy healing, what you are describing above is done all the time by energy workers, we do after all connect with the universal consciousness which holds the physical reality together, but the concept of a universal consciousness goes straight over the head of most scientists apart from the ones who try and explain it through quantum physics.
Hi Norbu
Nothing is set in stone, we only perceive it that way because we mostly function within the physical reality, I think that if you replace the word spiritual with consciousness, then you might move forward a pace.
With our consciousness we can perceive things outside of time and distance within the oneness, where all is one, everything that exists within the oneness is thought which is consciousness, it is with our consciousness that we create our reality, it is with our consciousness that we can change, bend or adapt our reality to suit our purpose, once we understand this, if we don't like something within our reality, then we can change it if we choose to.
I think it all comes down to responsibilities at the end of the day, if we conceive that something outside of ourselves had created our reality for us, then it is their responsibility to change it on our behalf, but if we conceive that we are an intrinsic part of the creation of our reality, then we have to take responsibility for what we have created in it, now since we own what we have created then we have the right to change it.
Hi Paul,
...,I think that if you replace the word spiritual with consciousness, then you might move forward a pace.
Yes I'm not overly fond of the word "spiritual" because the word designates a realm of being that is somehow supernatural or non-material.
... it is with our consciousness that we can change, bend or adapt our reality to suit our purpose, once we understand this, if we don't like something within our reality, then we can change it if we choose to.
I think this is true only if you have a very refined notion of personal purpose. This is where spiritual development comes in as a notion. Is the personal desire of a pyschopath just as valid as a that of a saint? Would it be possible for the powers of a sorcerer (who has not moral compass) to overcome "good?"
I think it all comes down to responsibilities at the end of the day, if we conceive that something outside of ourselves had created our reality for us, then it is their responsibility to change it on our behalf, but if we conceive that we are an intrinsic part of the creation of our reality, then we have to take responsibility for what we have created in it, now since we own what we have created then we have the right to change it.
What if you fail to do this? There could be a tendency to judge the self for failure if an individual fails to change their reality. What is the self that can change the illusions that it is subject to, if the experience it has created for itself is an illusions? There is a tendency for this theory to encourage and application of will rather than an applilcation of surrender and acceptance which are vital if the self created delusion is to be washed away.
Norbu
Hi Norbu
I think this is true only if you have a very refined notion of personal purpose. This is where spiritual development comes in as a notion. Is the personal desire of a pyschopath just as valid as a that of a saint? Would it be possible for the powers of a sorcerer (who has not moral compass) to overcome "good?"
Sorry but good and evil, right and wrong, success or failure have nothing what so ever to do with consciousness, consciousness is just a state of being.
What if you fail to do this? There could be a tendency to judge the self for failure if an individual fails to change their reality.
Failure is a perception, if someone has no sense of purpose then they can't fail, simply because they will not be attempting to alter anything!
Hi Judy
It is the same with energy healing, what you are describing above is done all the time by energy workers, we do after all connect with the universal consciousness which holds the physical reality together, but the concept of a universal consciousness goes straight over the head of most scientists apart from the ones who try and explain it through quantum physics.
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Paul,
Can you expand on "energy healing" , "energy workers", and The "universal consciousness which holds reality together". I'm interested to see how theses concepts blend with others.
Hi Paul,
Sorry but good and evil, right and wrong, success or failure have nothing what so ever to do with consciousness, consciousness is just a state of being.
mmm... Isn't consciousness dependent on a subject that is self aware and an object of perception?
Would you agree that how we experience things depends on how we understand them to be? This includes our own self, objects of perception and the nature of experience itself. Is our understanding of things purely arbitrary? Or are there deeper levels of reality that can be understood. Is "truth" merely a arbitrary and relative value judgment?
Failure is a perception, if someone has no sense of purpose then they can't fail, simply because they will not be attempting to alter anything!
If someone has no sense of purpose, what would their experience be like do you think?
Norbu