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:nature-smiley-008: Ah.. thanks V, got in at last. (See Scott - I'm not learned at all!)

Hey, where's the light bulb smilie gone?

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Interview with Dr L Doyle

I could have given this its own thread, but it seemed to belong well on this thread. Those of you who have been here for a while will have heard me mention Dr Laurance Doyle - an astro-physicist who is also a Christian Scientist. He sees everything from the point of view of science, though admitting that he sometimes has to use religious phraseology to describe things! His insights are so fresh. I was delighted to find a radio interview with station KEST in the San Francisco area. This was part of their "Spiritual Perspectives" programme http://www.lifeinsights.net/Radio.html

He starts off talking a bit about SETI and how he has diversified into studying communications here on earth, particularly with humpback whales and dolphins. They have learnt that information theory applies to animal communications too.

He speaks of the conflict between quantum physics and physiology. How the quantum physicists have become reluctant metaphysicians, their discoveries leading to the realm of ideas where consciousness is substantial.

He gives us an example at the end, of how it is actually impossible to talk in real time between someone in California and someone else in New York, because sound travels at 700 m.p.h., so it would take 10 hours to get an answer. “Physics has its place, but limitation doesn’t. Limitations are what are not real.”

Dr Doyle’s interview is here. It’s about an hour but well worth listening to.

http://www.lifeinsights.net/files/07-30-10_Spiritual_Perspectives_with_Dr_Laurance_Doyle.mp3

Enjoy!

Judy


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Do you think evolution is an argument for atheism? This lecture argues that not only did Darwin believe in God, but today we can intelligently understand the nature of God without pushing aside scientific discoveries. Daniel looks beyond the popular evolution vs. creationism debate and explores the nature of God as a scientific reality.

Hi Judy,

I never once thought that science and faith are incompatible, The two fit together like a hand inside a glove. Evolution is a proven fact. Given that premise, then what is the nature of God, if not a proven fact? It must be so, for as all nature evolves, so must the Universe, and since God is the ultimate being, then He/She/It must surely evolve too. In other words, all nature moves on, it doesn't stand still, so therefore the nature of God must also move on.

Bit convoluted, but hope you get the idea.

Patsy.


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David said:

That puts it into a nutshell for me. If there is a Higher Power (or Powers...) their influence upon this world is going to manifest through what are eventually material means. Evolution could easily be God's way of working some things out.

Says it all.

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...and again:

(I've never seen a reason for the existence of evolution to discount God, in other words.)

Me neither.


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