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(@wildstrawberry)
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The point of discussion forums, and the forum guidelines is to discuss things in a friendly manner, not to just post what you want and then be rude to people who don't believe or agree 100% with what you've posted.

I don't wish to be rude, Giles. I wish to be honest (honestly). My perception is that you are the one who gets offended - perceives rudeness - when you can't ram your understanding down someone else's throat. In effect preaching to them, in the manner that you usually accuse them of doing.

If this is coming across to you as me being rude, that's because I'm expecting you to go on the defensive about it, because you're attached to your current level of understanding, which in turn is putting me on the defensive in preparation. Like you, I don't appreciate being preached to either.


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Unfortunately this emotive video has been compiled by someone who does not understand how consciousness works, nor what the power of words and judgements have upon our way of being; they do not understand that an inner divisional conflict is two or more opposing thought patterns and beliefs that arise within our aspects of consciousness at the same time, otherwise they would not have put what they did.

It is fine taking a few chosen inspirational words in isolation from their counterparts and saying that they are just words unless we live by them, but the reality is that all words are valid and encompass the creative power of consciousness to manifest into our life experience, especially when we utilise them to set up an underlying core belief. Choosing to focus upon some words but ignoring others that we utilise will not create harmony and balance, it will create divisional conflict.

It then goes on to say that our greatest challenge is to behave according to our beliefs. The reality is that everyone is already living by the power of the words that they have chosen to set up their core beliefs by, we are all already doing what this message is portraying, we are all already creating our life experience around our underlying thought patterns and beliefs, which are words.

It then injects a judgement into the equation by saying that we have to do the right thing, practice what we preach and walk the talk, by choosing to perceive one thing as the right thing, effectively makes something else the wrong thing, this sets up a division and division equates to conflict, this is how we set up our inner divisional conflicts between our aspects of consciousness. If we wish to be authentic, then there is no right or wrong judgement, there only is what is.

OK now it talks about what we need to achieve this, it says that we need commitment and we should fight the temptation to compromise our values and beliefs, so we are encouraged to intensify the inner divisional conflicts that we have chosen to create through our judgements and declare war on aspects of our consciousness that do not agree with our divisional judgements!

It then goes on to say that this course of action will make you stronger, to my understanding the only thing that will get stronger by implementing the above statement is the inner conflicts and the resulting suffering that they are creating within the person who is doing it!

The next part says to build a reputation as someone who tells the truth, I think this is what Giles refers to as ego, for we do not need to create an ego to project to the world around us, we just need to be.

The next part recommends more divisional judgements be applied, hold yourself to high standards, what about letting go of all standards so that you can just be?

We then get onto the issue of respect and are told to make sure that we treat others with dignity and make sure that our behaviour is respectful as this will make you a person of quality! Why would someone who is looking to become authentic want to perceive themselves as anything other than what they are?

It then talks of courage and says to follow our conscious rather than follow the crowd as this will make you heroic! I do what this implies all of the time and it does not make me feel anything other than myself.

Now we are into integrity, and it says to choose rightness over ease and convenience as it will give you pride and peace, unfortunately pride and peace are two different things, peace requires inner harmony and balance, pride is a divisional judgement which creates disharmony and strife. If we take the judgement out of the statement then we have be ourself if we wish to find inner peace and harmony.

The little voice is our underlying thought patterns and beliefs that we have set up in our core way of being, it will argue with us, whenever we attempt to do something that is in opposition to what we have chosen to set up as a divisional judgemental belief of right or wrong, when we get rid of judgemental beliefs, then the voice goes quiet for whatever is, is.

It then concludes with starting each day with a commitment to implement a divisional judgement of what is right, it then finishes with saying that each day brings a fresh opportunity to choose to do what is right!

The reality of consciousness is that we can choose all of the time, would it not be better to start each day by declaring what we wish to start and experience this day free from any divisional judgements and just be.

The main thing that is missing from this emotive video is personal responsibility, when we choose to be come responsible for the thought patterns and beliefs that we have chosen to implement within the fullness of self, then we take back our personal power and control as well as the ability to choose freely to be whatever we need to be in any given moment of time, this is what sets us free to be and dwell within the now.

So if anyone wishes to implement the inner divisional conflicts that will arise from implementing what is portrayed within this video, then you are 100% solely responsible for that choice. 😉


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There's a saying...."life is real when you are"

[url]Walk the Talk - YouTube[/url]

Walking the talk or living by example holds one in good stead .

In living by example one has sustenance and depth as where one that speaks kindly and acts cruel lacks sustenance and is shallow .

I think the video link was full of well meanings put across in a simple way . Not my cup of tea to be honest it felt as if I was reading / watching something from out of a bible class (lol) but at the heart of the messages there wasn't anything that I could not relate too in some shape or form .

All that was said goes into the pot so to speak ..

x dazzle x


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The video may be a bit anodyne - but I'm OK with a message to walk my talk.

For me, authenticity and walking your talk are important - for instance, if I am someone who prays for world peace, yet routinely picks angry fights with everyone around me, then I am clearly not 'walking my talk' and not recognising that 'peace begins with me'.

However, it then gets tricky because, to walk my talk, I wouldn't just have to 'not be angry', as that is probably suppressing stuff that needs to be dealt with, I have to work on myself so that the anger no longer exists.

So, I suppose that that is the 'gap' in the message and is possibly why some of you are getting worked up.


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amy green
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Unfortunately this emotive video has been compiled by someone who does not understand how consciousness works, nor what the power of words and judgements have upon our way of being; they do not understand that an inner divisional conflict is two or more opposing thought patterns and beliefs that arise within our aspects of consciousness at the same time, otherwise they would not have put what they did.

It is precisely this inner divisional conflict that the video addresses, i.e. to walk the talk
- not to just say one thing and act another. This is what being authentic is.

It is fine taking a few chosen inspirational words in isolation from their counterparts and saying that they are just words unless we live by them, but the reality is that all words are valid and encompass the creative power of consciousness to manifest into our life experience, especially when we utilise them to set up an underlying core belief. Choosing to focus upon some words but ignoring others that we utilise will not create harmony and balance, it will create divisional conflict.

Of course all words may be valid. The choice of words here relate to the subject!!!!

It then goes on to say that our greatest challenge is to behave according to our beliefs. The reality is that everyone is already living by the power of the words that they have chosen to set up their core beliefs by, we are all already doing what this message is portraying, we are all already creating our life experience around our underlying thought patterns and beliefs, which are words.

Again you miss the point. That's the issue, i.e. so many people don't behave
according to their beliefs. For instance there's a difference between someone
who purports to be a Christian but their actions/behaviour betray them and one
who is a Christian and whose beliefs shine through the way they conduct themselves.

It then injects a judgement into the equation by saying that we have to do the right thing, practice what we preach and walk the talk, by choosing to perceive one thing as the right thing, effectively makes something else the wrong thing, this sets up a division and division equates to conflict, this is how we set up our inner divisional conflicts between our aspects of consciousness. If we wish to be authentic, then there is no right or wrong judgement, there only is what is.

There is such a thing as discernment, without which you would make no sense of the world.

OK now it talks about what we need to achieve this, it says that we need commitment and we should fight the temptation to compromise our values and beliefs, so we are encouraged to intensify the inner divisional conflicts that we have chosen to create through our judgements and declare war on aspects of our consciousness that do not agree with our divisional judgements!

Again with the conflicts - no!!! Conflicts only exist when we are not integrated - you
appear to have missed the essential message of this video. :rolleyes:

It then goes on to say that this course of action will make you stronger, to my understanding the only thing that will get stronger by implementing the above statement is the inner conflicts and the resulting suffering that they are creating within the person who is doing it!

This video addresses those inner conflicts in order that we may achieve integration.e

The next part says to build a reputation as someone who tells the truth, I think this is what Giles refers to as ego, for we do not need to create an ego to project to the world around us, we just need to be.

Wow - how did you arrive at that from addressing the truth? :confused:

The next part recommends more divisional judgements be applied, hold yourself to high standards, what about letting go of all standards so that you can just be?

Sure you can let go of all standards - you can be immoral. That would be a different video don't you think?

We then get onto the issue of respect and are told to make sure that we treat others with dignity and make sure that our behaviour is respectful as this will make you a person of quality! Why would someone who is looking to become authentic want to perceive themselves as anything other than what they are?

There's a difference between those who already are authentic and those striving/interested in this issue (who this video is really for).

It then talks of courage and says to follow our conscious rather than follow the crowd as this will make you heroic! I do what this implies all of the time and it does not make me feel anything other than myself.

Now we are into integrity, and it says to choose rightness over ease and convenience as it will give you pride and peace, unfortunately pride and peace are two different things, peace requires inner harmony and balance, pride is a divisional judgement which creates disharmony and strife. If we take the judgement out of the statement then we have be ourself if we wish to find inner peace and harmony.

Peace and pride can go hand in hand - I have experienced this combination
when I did voluntary work.

The little voice is our underlying thought patterns and beliefs that we have set up in our core way of being, it will argue with us, whenever we attempt to do something that is in opposition to what we have chosen to set up as a divisional judgemental belief of right or wrong, when we get rid of judgemental beliefs, then the voice goes quiet for whatever is, is.

No - it's when we get rid of the conflict between what we think/believe and how our actions don't match this that there is no division. I think you are fond of using the
words division and judgement. This video addresses confict (i.e. division) because
it lacks integrity. Judgement is your word to criticise what needs to be focused on to
discern what is the case.

It then concludes with starting each day with a commitment to implement a divisional judgement of what is right, it then finishes with saying that each day brings a fresh opportunity to choose to do what is right!

The reality of consciousness is that we can choose all of the time, would it not be better to start each day by declaring what we wish to start and experience this day free from any divisional judgements and just be.

Divisional judgements! 😀 We obviously choose how we want to start the day -
this video is for those who wish to become more authentic. Start the day as you
please .... you've totally missed the point here.

The main thing that is missing from this emotive video is personal responsibility, when we choose to be come responsible for the thought patterns and beliefs that we have chosen to implement within the fullness of self, then we take back our personal power and control as well as the ability to choose freely to be whatever we need to be in any given moment of time, this is what sets us free to be and dwell within the now.

Yes!

So if anyone wishes to implement the inner divisional conflicts that will arise from implementing what is portrayed within this video, then you are 100% solely responsible for that choice. 😉

Sadly you end with your basic misunderstanding, i.e. the inner conflicts. It is this that the video addresses - to look at this, see what needs addressing in order to become more authentic.


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