Why would the spirits of certain Tarot cards give any more insight into your past/present/future than any other spirit which you could ask yourself? I find it odd that a Shamanic practitioner would give or acccept 'readings' in this way.
Yes. Fair enough. She’s a friend. It gives her a bit more income. It’s fun. But I wouldn’t ask her if she didn’t work shamanically.
Sometimes, though, it’s good to get the opinion of other people’s spirits. Usually, of course, I’d just ask a friend to ask his/her spirit teachers.
Why can't you just ask your own? I don't understand why, if you implicitly trust your own spirit helpers, you would want the opinion of someone else's.
Why can't you just ask your own? I don't understand why, if you implicitly trust your own spirit helpers, you would want the opinion of someone else's.
Sometimes, even if I'm pretty sure of what I think, I'll ask other people's opinions - to maybe be told something that hadn't occurred to me, or to get a different perspective. It's sometimes the reason that I ask questions on HP. I ask other people's spirits for the same reason. Not just anyone's spirits, but with close friends, I have known their spirits for many years. For example, I have a friend whose main teacher almost always disagrees with my main teacher. If my teacher advised me to do something and her teacher advised something else, I would go by what my teacher said. But I might well talk to him about what my friend's teacher had said and find out the reasons for the disagreement - this gives me another perspective and helps me to learn. Some of my friends' teachers are beings that I regard as friends of my own. I've known them for a long time. And, of course, if I need healing then I have to trust them. They are all different with their own personalities, so I would choose who to ask based on the teacher as well as my this-reality friend.
Do you think we should shift this to the shamanism forum?
Posted here because I couldn't find anywhere more appropriate - please relocate it if it's in the wrong place....
Recently I've been trying to get a handle on card reading, crystal ball etc. Wikipedia suggests something like the following: Tarot reading revolves around the belief that the cards can be used to gain insight into the past, current and possible future situations of the enquirer. Some believe they are guided by a spiritual force, while others believe the cards help them tap into a collective unconscious or their own creative, brainstorming subconscious. I'd guess there'll be something similar for other forms of reading.
I'm not interested in the mechanism of readings but I'd like to hear what practitioners feel they are doing, the source of any information acquired. I'd also like to hear what enquirers felt about the readings they've had and where they thought any information came from. Additionally I'd like to learn what benefit practitioners feel they are providing and what recipients feel they received.
Plenty to go at!
I've read since I was 16, for friends and myself. Sometimes have been very accurate! Never charged for it, don't believe in that for me. I feel the cards represent energies that are best described as the collective unconscious, i.e. this is the nearest fit but it's a bit deeper. There is also something to do with time I feel, as if they enable you to perceive it in a less linear richer way. I believe that their psychological / archetypal aspects have to be felt quite deeply in order to do the what-is-going-to-happen stuff.
Your take on Tarot reading is similar to my own, mouse - I believe the intuition comes from within and from the wider realm which we can access at certain times. The problem I have with Crowan's response is that she implies that she takes the 'reading' from the spirits of the actual cards.