And how many spirits would that involve, considering how many strains of various illnesses, infections, etc.etc. there are or might be? Would there be a spirit solely of your particular illness, if you were ill - which would be different from the illness spirit of someone else who had that illness? And what about individual germs? And viruses? Ad infinitum..... :confused:
Over to you, Cascara, I'm exasperated by all this!
Since everything has a spirit, does it matter if I speak to individual cards and you speak to archetypes (which is not a shamanic concept but which, nevertheless, must have a spirit)? Im not sure about your term spiritual characters. Do you mean that in some way they are more spiritual than other characters? Why does once being a tree and having ink on it make something less spiritual? And what is a true spirit?
What do the inverted commas around spirit mean?
Sorry but I was talking about tarot (this thread is about tarot) and it would take a long time to explain the correlation of those two particular cards characters.
Personally I don't accept the blanket rigid beliefs about what you have described as 'shamanism', there are just too many holes. The deeper one digs the more flawed, on the surface your explanations are fine, but some of those provided just do not seem to follow in the true spirit of being a shaman. There is a distinct lacking of the clear link between spirit, connection, and life. Where is the generic and the harmonic? Where is the direct link and dynamism between part and whole that exists? You obviously have a strict shamanism culture that does not allow for scrutinisation that other shamans accept and allow.. or perhaps it is the tarot that is throwing the sword in the works here.
Sorry but I was talking about tarot (this thread is about tarot) and it would take a long time to explain the correlation of those two particular cards characters.
I haven't asked about it.
Personally I don't accept the blanket rigid beliefs about what you have described as 'shamanism', there are just too many holes. The deeper one digs the more flawed, on the surface your explanations are fine, but some of those provided just do not seem to follow in the true spirit of being a shaman. There is a distinct lacking of the clear link between spirit, connection, and life. Where is the generic and the harmonic? Where is the direct link and dynamism between part and whole that exists? You obviously have a strict shamanism culture that does not allow for scrutinisation that other shamans accept and allow.. or perhaps it is the tarot that is throwing the sword in the works here.
This seems rather ironical, since it seems that you have problems with my beliefs rather than my having problems with anyone else’. You have used a lot of terms that I don’t understand. When I’ve asked what you mean, I have had no reply. What, for example, are my blanket rigid beliefs? What is the ‘true spirit of being a shaman’? (Since I don’t understand what you mean by ‘generic’ and ‘harmonic’.) Do I obviously have a ‘strict shamanism culture’? I don’t even know what a ‘shamanism culture’ is. I have not said that you are wrong about archetypes. I asked some questions around what you said.
I haven't asked about it.
When you say you haven't asked about it you did in post 700972. I am amazed that you say you are a shaman but then you go on to say you do not understand harmonics or generics, or recognise your own culture has rules and beliefs. But this subject is really too abstract and remote from the original tarot thread and questions, so rather than hijack this thread to discuss your different ideas on shamanism here, may I suggest you start a thread in that forum 🙂
I guess mac is on holiday or just exasperated at the tangent replies?
rather than hijack this thread to discuss your different ideas on shamanism here, may I suggest you start a thread in that forum
Have done.