I think it's not relevant to shamanic practitioners because we are not claiming to heal physical ailments. We heal the spiritual problem, of which the physical, mental or emotional problem is a symptom.
I think it's not relevant to shamanic practitioners because we are not claiming to heal physical ailments. We heal the spiritual problem, of which the physical, mental or emotional problem is a symptom.
From what I recall, it's like Paul said, it's up to the practitioner to prove that they can do what they claim to do. It would be relevant to shamanic practitioners, because if you claim you are spiritually healing someone and they claim that you've done nothing, it would be up to you to prove you've done it. That's why there was a lot of discussion about it at the time, and why people were starting to have to use the "for entertainment purposes only" angle to cover themselves.
Anyway, I think the thread is going somewhat off-topic, so perhaps best this angle of the discussion if left now or taken up on a new thread if desired, and we focus more on our help and support for Hallos. 😉
All Love and Reiki Hugs
Hello, I just wanted to share with you how i am doing and post a link to a brillant website ive found for help and advice/support for PND
Firstly my worst day ever that i had many months ago seems to staying that way and that even though i have had a few anixety feelings its been nothing compare to the worst day. Sophia is 5mths on wed and it would appear that my ups and downs are pretty much connected to how Sophia is. She had a bad time with her reflux about a month ago and this sent me into fear and the sick feeling started to come again as i was frighten she would become unsettled again and cry all the time and not sleep.....but this was not the case she was only unsettled for a while and now shes a happy baby and still sleeps through the night.
With regards to my healing, ive been in contact with a guy called phillip day and he has stated that post natal depression can be linked to low vitamin d levels and so i did some research and it was very interesting to see the symptoms low vitamin d do cause. I have since had a blood test and im awaiting the results. Also lets not forget i am currently taking throxine and so having a underactive thyroid can make you feel out of balance if your not on the right medication. I am hoping to stop throxine once ive stopped breast feeding/expressing.
Im currently having CBT therapy and im not sure how much of it is working for me as i am now wondering if im actually suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and not Post natal depression....as the two are treated differently.
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I also tried hypnosis with a lovely lady and i felt amazing for a while but then i had a very stressful time with sophia being unsettled and the panic and the sick feeling came back. So i decided to try other treatments.
Now another lady i came across is Sarah Williams and she makes these amazing chakra creams and shes offering free readings on the creams you need. I was truly impressed with her lotions and potions and so i brought a kit so i could dowse and see what i needed etc. Ive currently brought a cream for my throat and sacral.
Ive heard that there is a treatment called human givens and its ment to really work well with depression and its quicker and not long and drawn out like CBT. Im seeing some one on Wednesday to see what its all about.
Finally, i heard something today that made me think...oh yea that makes sense and it was Sarah Williams talking about the ascension and the feelings people might be feeling at the moment......yep depression is one of them......ummmm
Heres the group called Pandas....brilliant for PND support etc.Lots of lovely storys
Lastest Update
Hello all,
I just wanted to say hi and that PND seems to be very much in the past now 🙂 I do have down days when my little girl is perhaps unsettled and not sleeping at night but no where near as bad as it was. Ive found that there is very little support for peeps suffering from post natal depression and so i did managed to come across a great organization called pandas who offer help and support for pre and postnatal suffers.
I felt very guided/driven to set up a local support group in my area and so this is my new project and although the process is going very slow...im trusting everything is as it should be and will unfold soon.
I have also found that hypnosis and human givens therapy have helped me recovery from PND. Ive also had my thyroid levels rechecked as this can be a sign of depression and also my vitamin d levels as this can be linked to depression also.
My support group has a facebook page and has also a closed group aswell. Im hoping to secure a venue on wed at my local childrens centre.
many blessings to you all
Rachelx
That's excellent news Hallos, I'm so pleased for you;).
And, what else is Sophia up to these days? Will she be sporting some interesting outfits over the Christmas period....? Christmas Puddings.... Christmas Fairies.... a Brussel Sprout (might help to restore the sullied reputation of Brussel Sprouts nationwide :D)...
Do you have a link for your support group's Facebook page, for anyone who comes across this thread in the future...?
Thankyou WildStrawberry your reply made me giggle. I have indeed been looking for outfits for my ickle one..but its probably going to be a boring pretty red party dress:) She is such a happy settled baby now...bless her i dont think she liked being here on earth at first. Her reflux still plays her up when shes teething and shes loves food...:) I Started weaning her at four months as she was a big girl and needed alittle more than milk. Shes only five months old and is in 6 to 9mths clothes. We are watching tiny pops as i type Meg and Mog. Shes so advanced for her age...and already knows whats she wants.....lots and lots of cuddles. She does sleep through the night aswell..but has been waking up at 3 and 530ish but think its linked to the solar flares or the moon...hehehe im going to make sure theres no port holes around her room aswell...as my other daughter used to keep waking up in that room.
The facebook page is
I will post a upto date photo of Sophia soon 🙂
xx
Thankyou WildStrawberry your reply made me giggle. I have indeed been looking for outfits for my ickle one..but its probably going to be a boring pretty red party dress:) She is such a happy settled baby now...bless her i dont think she liked being here on earth at first. Her reflux still plays her up when shes teething and shes loves food...:) I Started weaning her at four months as she was a big girl and needed alittle more than milk. Shes only five months old and is in 6 to 9mths clothes. We are watching tiny pops as i type Meg and Mog. Shes so advanced for her age...and already knows whats she wants.....lots and lots of cuddles. She does sleep through the night aswell..but has been waking up at 3 and 530ish but think its linked to the solar flares or the moon...hehehe im going to make sure theres no port holes around her room aswell...as my other daughter used to keep waking up in that room.
The facebook page is
I will post a upto date photo of Sophia soon 🙂
xx
Awwhh, that's great - all sounds BRILLIANT!
I was going to ask for a few photos, but didn't want to be too cheeky.... . I'll look forwards to those! With a healthy glowing face and a red party dress, Sophia could easily pretend to be a shiny red Bauble.....:D
If you're not around before Christmas - hope you all have a Good One! And: Best of Luck with your support group - brilliant idea........!
I happen to live in a society where people hardly talk about PND including most medics. Being a social worker in Nairobi - Kenya I have seen countless women suffering from PND because of the roles the society expects from them.
Am happy to see such big support for women suffering from PND. I just wish this can happen here.
Small Steps
Hello,
Thankyou for your reply. Even here in the uk there are struggles based around mental health issues ie depression, postnatal depression. My group is taking a while to start up and I think this is alot to do with people having to make the first step to admit they have post natal depression. I love the name ive choose for the group it links in so well with my experiences. All it takes is small steps and hopefully the ripple thats made via pandas support groups here in the uk will perhaps find its way out in the big wide world to.
Hi Hallos and Happy New Year!
Have recently come off Facebook so can't access the link but if I have any 'relevant' patients from your area, I'll pass the word on. Hope it gets off the ground....Hom
Happy new year hom. Ive made a free website now and ive started to get peeps coming to the group. Theses things take time to grow. I so love doing charity work. X
Happy new year hom. Ive made a free website now and ive started to get peeps coming to the group. Theses things take time to grow. I so love doing charity work. X
PND, very common and many ways to recover from it
Dear Hallos,
I was very interested to read about your journey through PND. I've had to deal with it and still recovering. For me, it didn't matter what people were telling me to do, I would still have these feelings and got me very down...
It all started to go better with a prescribed mild anti-depressant which has broken the vicious circle. Then, as I was feeling gradually better I've started to put everything back into perspective. I was very independent before and I was stuck at home with this baby who demanded of me more than I could give.
Well, I forgot about housework, it will still be there to do the next day! I got myself out of the house. With the children center I was attending a different group nearly every day! Baby massage, baby matter, breast feeding support group. Just for the contact with adults, it did me the world of good! I then considered exercise. I never took the car to go to the groups and definitively was a good decision!
Finally, I also considered my eating and I now have my little routine which works for me:
I go to bed every day no later than 10pm.
My alarm is set every day at 6.30am.
Breakfast: squeezed lemon juice into 1 pint of water + bowl of muesli with added seeds
This takes me right to lunch!
I then do my washing up from the night before and tidy up a bit the house. No better feeling to start the day with a clear head (house)
Then, my son wakes up and I'm in good mood to face a day with him!
Anyway, I just thought I would share with you my little tricks to beat PND which is a nasty place to be in...!
Hope you're getting on alright,
Lots of love, Una
Thankyou for sharing your story and well done you for not letting pnd win. All your changes are so positive and im so happy you will able to do them by yourself. Pandas is the only national charity for pre and postnatal depression and I spend alot if time on their facebook page. I def need to get to bed at 10..regardless of what I have to do. My little one has been waking at 330am and is ready to get up.... I find I cant seem to stay indoors and have to get out. Im hoping to start yoga tomorow. I also want to do the baby massage course aswell.
Lovely to hear from you. Xxx
Hi Hallos
Bit late - but Happy New Year to you :D.
How wonderful you are setting up this charity. This is excellent, as those with p.n.d. feel so very isolated, often struggling to cope with the new little one who is so demanding, plus everything else - and often feeling so very tired and suffering from lack of sleep too. Not easy!
And there are those who sail through it all as if they were just having breakfast and a wonderful day ahead - and that makes you feel worse, even inadequate. Oh yes .... not a lot of fun.
So, I empathise with all you have been through and congratulate you on coming through with an excellent idea and determination. Very well done!