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Foods get digested and broken down into vitamins, minerals and amino acids that your body can use to build healthy skin. If you crash diet or eat highly processed foods, your skin won’t be as strong and supple as it could be. Reduce sugar as much as possible for good skin. Replace refined sugary foods with nutrient-dense foods- like fruits and vegetables. Best skin diet is one that involves eating vegetables of different colors for every meal and a green juice every day. Tomatoes are good for helping reduce sun damage. The darker and brighter the color, the more nutrients. If you’re picking greens for a salad, choose darker green greens like kale or spinach. You also need to make sure you’re getting enough carbohydrates and protein.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 6:13 am
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Enough fat and protein, yes. But carbohydrates are not a necessary macro nutrient, so I wouldn't worry about them too much unless you have problems (weight, diabetes, heart problems etc) in which case you might want to reduce them. Get most of your carbohydrate from vegetables.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 2:00 pm
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I guess most people know that standard soap is drying to the skin - glycerine soaps are better.

In terms of moisturisers, I can recommend using almond oil, It is popular for skin (and hair) care. I get a small bottle of it from chemists.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 2:11 pm
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Enough fat and protein, yes. But carbohydrates are not a necessary macro nutrient, so I wouldn't worry about them too much unless you have problems (weight, diabetes, heart problems etc) in which case you might want to reduce them. Get most of your carbohydrate from vegetables.

I would dispute what you say here about carbohydrates...

Carbohydrates, in the form of starches and sugars*, are the macronutrients required in the largest amounts. When eaten and broken down, carbohydrates provide the major source of energy to fuel our daily activities. It is recommended that carbohydrates should supply 45–65% of our total daily energy needs.

Source: https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/534-macronutrients

* Of course you know that there are natural sugars, e.g. in milk and fruit.

If no carbohydrate is eaten then proteins are broken down to be used as carbohydrates - expensive and wasteful!


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 2:18 pm
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I would dispute what you say here about carbohydrates...

Carbohydrates, in the form of starches and sugars*, are the macronutrients required in the largest amounts. When eaten and broken down, carbohydrates provide the major source of energy to fuel our daily activities. It is recommended that carbohydrates should supply 45–65% of our total daily energy needs.

Source: https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/534-macronutrients

* Of course you know that there are natural sugars, e.g. in milk and fruit.

If no carbohydrate is eaten then proteins are broken down to be used as carbohydrates - expensive and wasteful!

You know, Amy, I really wouldn't be posting this stuff if the science didn't back it up. There is not one study that indicates that we need carbohydrates. The whole 'low-fat' hypothesis is a dangerous con.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 2:36 pm
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You know, Amy, I really wouldn't be posting this stuff if the science didn't back it up. There is not one study that indicates that we need carbohydrates. The whole 'low-fat' hypothesis is a dangerous con.

I am not addressing the low fat hypothesis here at all (and anyway I don't even support it!)

Carbohydrate is a MACRO nutrient, i.e. by default it is regarded as one of the main staple foods needed for our diet. You have found what works for you which is fine but I feel you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. For example, are you aware that carbohydrates help facilitate tryptophan and serotonin availability?

Carbohydrates include ones with valuable soluble fibres, i.e. it's not just white flour, white rice and white sugar.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 3:12 pm
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I am not addressing the low fat hypothesis here at all (and anyway I don't even support it!)

Carbohydrate is a MACRO nutrient, i.e. by default it is regarded as one of the main staple foods needed for our diet. You have found what works for you which is fine but I feel you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. For example, are you aware that carbohydrates help facilitate tryptophan and serotonin availability?

Carbohydrates include ones with valuable soluble fibres, i.e. it's not just white flour, white rice and white sugar.

I know you don't support it. You seem to think scientific proof is an option. Your comment here:

You have found what works for you which is fine but I feel you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. .

suggests that you are either not reading anything I post about this or you are choosing to ignore it. I am not talking about a weird diet that I have 'found works for me', I am talking about a huge wealth of scientific evidence for the high fat/ low carb way of eating and NO evidence against it.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 4:04 pm
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I know you don't support it. You seem to think scientific proof is an option. Your comment here:

suggests that you are either not reading anything I post about this or you are choosing to ignore it. I am not talking about a weird diet that I have 'found works for me', I am talking about a huge wealth of scientific evidence for the high fat/ low carb way of eating and NO evidence against it.

Yes and I am not disputing this finding. That's a different topic! I have no interest in such a diet which is not to undermine it.

My post was on carbohydrate as an established macro nutrient i.e. that is regarded as a staple of our diet.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 5:55 pm
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And I'm saying that carbohydrates are not necessary. That it is completely possible to live without them.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 6:04 pm
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And I'm saying that carbohydrates are not necessary. That it is completely possible to live without them.

Yes it is, i.e. (as mentioned) consumed protein will just be diverted and used for the carbohydrate function. What an expensive process!


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 6:14 pm
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Yes it is, i.e. (as mentioned) consumed protein will just be diverted and used for the carbohydrate function. What an expensive process!

Why? And why is it the 'carbohydrate function? You could just as easily say the carbohydrates could be used for the protein function. Which begs the question, what can carbohydrates do that fat and protein can't?

I'm not suggesting that everyone cuts carbohydrates out of their diet. I'm suggesting they look at the evidence.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 6:37 pm
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Why? And why is it the 'carbohydrate function? You could just as easily say the carbohydrates could be used for the protein function. Which begs the question, what can carbohydrates do that fat and protein can't?

I'm not suggesting that everyone cuts carbohydrates out of their diet. I'm suggesting they look at the evidence.

It sounds like you are complaining here! I don't have a say in how protein or carbohydrate function.


 
Posted : 27/02/2017 7:05 pm
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You often assume complaints, offence and 'drama'. I have to say, this is your interpretation.

I am not suggesting that you have a say in how protein or carbohydrate function. I was pointing out that, if they do the same job (as I agree), then the functions could just as easily be called 'the protein functions' - particularly as there are no people, ever, who have survived without protein. And many who have survived and been healthy without carbohydrates.


 
Posted : 28/02/2017 1:45 pm
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You often assume complaints, offence and 'drama'. I have to say, this is your interpretation.

I am not suggesting that you have a say in how protein or carbohydrate function. I was pointing out that, if they do the same job (as I agree), then the functions could just as easily be called 'the protein functions' - particularly as there are no people, ever, who have survived without protein. And many who have survived and been healthy without carbohydrates.

Well, on the breakfast thread, you brought up that we don't starve to death in the context of foregoing breakfast! I call that a dramatic and inappropriate jump in the discussion i.e. not one that I was implying at all. I just find it tedious rather than offensive. We often talk at cross purposes, i.e. misunderstanding each other.

I am not undermining the importance of protein at all. It is said that we overeat protein anyway which increases acidity in the bloodstream.


 
Posted : 28/02/2017 1:49 pm
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Foods get digested and broken down into vitamins, minerals and amino acids that your body can use to build healthy skin. If you crash diet or eat highly processed foods, your skin won’t be as strong and supple as it could be. Reduce sugar as much as possible for good skin. Replace refined sugary foods with nutrient-dense foods- like fruits and vegetables. Best skin diet is one that involves eating vegetables of different colors for every meal and a green juice every day. Tomatoes are good for helping reduce sun damage. The darker and brighter the color, the more nutrients. If you’re picking greens for a salad, choose darker green greens like kale or spinach. You also need to make sure you’re getting enough carbohydrates and protein.

Blossompaddok, I (and, I'm sure, Amy) have no intention of hijacking your thread. (We often have these long discussions.) What are your views? Come and join in!:)


 
Posted : 28/02/2017 2:11 pm
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