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oshirowanen
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My 3 year old daughter has now had a skin prick test against dairy and soya. It was all clear.

However, when she has dairy, she gets really bad nappy rash.

Anyone know of any Chinese medicine type therapies we can try on her? Conventional medicine has not been very successful.

At the moment, we are using some form of 50% liquid paraffin, 50% white soft paraffin mixture, wet wrapped in a bandage. It helps but only if we do this every single day and have her wet wrapped 24 hours a day...

After the 24 hours, we wash her with some oil formula from the doctors and nothing else.

It helps in-terms of temporarily healing the skin. As soon as the wet wrap is removed, she starts scratching herself almost instantly and within 5 minutes, you can see the rash forming again, covering most of her body.

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jnani
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must be terrible, poor little thing
There are a few remedies that can alleviate and eventually cure with prolonged use but some can be terribly messy and awkward. The one I can safely recommend that works is Black seed oil, Its not Chinese medicine I am afraid. The black seed is widely used in Indian cooking. I recently found out that Prophet Mohammed referred to it as a panacea that can cure most things. I bought the oil off internet, its organic and cold pressed, not very expensive.
It has banished my son's pretty bad eczema
Be cautioned though it did it make it a wee bit worse for a couple of days but it did clear it within 2 weeks. He is also having it orally. Very satisfactory results.
Hope it goes soon.

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Hi oshirowanen,

I am so sorry to hear your daughter has such bad eczema. Unfortunately Western Medicine has little to offer to sort it out - only paliative treatments. Functional Medicine on the other hand has much to offer because it looks at the causes and helps to rebalance the body's functioning. (I have no TCM knowledge). Jnani's suggestion may well be good - I've not heard of Black seed - I must find out more about it, it looks really interesting.

The skin prick test was probably for allergy (IgE reaction), when it is often an IgG reaction that is involved with eczema - this is an 'intolerance' with delayed reactions showing up - anything fom 4-72 hours later and not necessarily at the site or where you expect the problem to appear (hence very difficult to quantify 'scientifically'). The good thing is that it is not an allegy which usually lasts a lifetime; and intolerance is something that the body can 'forget' if the offending food is avoided very carefully over a period of time.

There are also issues that can be addressed in the way of probiotics, vitamin D, and Omega oils which can make an enormous difference. But each person needs careful assessment to see what is most helpful.

I would seriously suggest you take her to see a registered [url]Nutritional Therapist [/url](think The food Doctor series on TV) to help get her sorted. Conventional doctors only do 6 hours or so nutrition in 6 years training and really have little idea of the beneficial effects of food and the right nutrients on the body.

Whichever route you choose, there are answers out there and it is posssible to alleviate the distress this little one is suffering.

Wishing you all the best

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ravenstar
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oshirowanen, I'm sorry that your daughter and you are going through such distress, my heart :043: goes out to both of you. My daughter had eczema when she was very young, we tried to help her on our own then when all failed took her to the doctor. Turned out she had allergens.

Have you taken your daughter to a doctor? There can be other underlying causes to eczema problems like allergies, autoimmune, a bacterial infection and even problems with the thyroid. The doctor could also give your little one some cortisone cream to clear up the eczema, which will also make her feel a whole lot better in just a couple of days..

Once you know she's okay, then you could start her on a natural therapy. 🙂

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Hi There,

we are just working through the reasons why my daughter gets Eczema - she has had it since she was 6 weeks old and she is now 8.

We have found that giving her supplements of Omege 3 / 6 have helped improved the condition of her skin ( you can get them from a health food store )

Also, my daughter has no allergy test reactions to milk but does get a rash when she has dairy...my specialist said it could be a lactose intolernace rather than an allergy. Intolerances do not show up in the blood or on skin prick testing !

I have started to use natural oils on my daughters skin such as vitamin e oil - previously we used Diprobase which you can get off your GP and was very good 🙂

I think you should see your specialist again and on another note weve been paying privately to see a Homeopath and it has worked wonders for my daughter .

Good Luck
x

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Hi, I'm a homeopath and in my experience there have been very few children who haven't responded to homeopathic treatment at my clinic. You should look for an experienced and registered homeopath and if you decide to go down this route, feel free to pm me if you'd like any further advice. HTH Hom

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oshirowanen
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Thank you very much for all the advice. I now feel as if some hope is still out their.

Just 1 think I am a bit confused about. Should I be looking into a nutritional therapist first or a homoeopath first? Or are both the same?

1. We want to get our daughter to increase weight in a healthy manner as she is under weight,

2. We want to find out what she is allergic too

3. We want to control if not heal her eczema

So I am not sure which route to take? nutritional therapist or homoeopath?

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CarolineN
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Thank you very much for all the advice. I now feel as if some hope is still out their.

Just 1 think I am a bit confused about. Should I be looking into a nutritional therapist first or a homoeopath first? Or are both the same?

1. We want to get our daughter to increase weight in a healthy manner as she is under weight,

2. We want to find out what she is allergic too

3. We want to control if not heal her eczema

So I am not sure which route to take? nutritional therapist or homoeopath?

Personally I'd take both options though Hom may possibly disagree with me on this.

Giving the body the right building blocks (foods) to suit it will help the healing process physically - ie supplying essential oils, vitamins and minerals ([url]see this book[/url] for details and research) and probiotics, while avoiding those foods that are causing problems will make an enormous difference. A food intolerance test will show up problems with 113 different foods (at least) - so there is a much higher likelihood of uncovering the problem than just the allergy (IgE) test of 2 items. While there are common offenders like milk, eggs, soya, wheat and so on, there are other foods that are assumed to be healthy which can cause serious problems too - like oranges or bananas, garlic or onions. Every person is individual and what one person reacts to can be completely different for another person. Food intolerance testing is very well worth doing in my experience.

The Nutritional Therapist will find out food intolerances, advise on suitable foods to build the body up, and advise on suitable supplements for her. It is perfectly possible to heal the eczema.

Homeopathy produces some very good results but is dealing with the problem in a different way, often encouraging the body to thrive, hence I would go for both options.

I do hope she is sorted very soon - it is such a miserable problem - and may I wish you all the very best of health in the coming year.

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selenegreen
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Hello I posted before but I do have some more adice so here goes !
My daugter is now 8 and has had eczema since she was 6 weeks old.
I consulted a Homeopath about a year ago - she was also a GP and we did get nutritional advice as well as homeopathic remedies, She also suggested what allergy testing we needed from the NHS and the eczema is now almost gone!

This is what worked for us ...

I picked up a leaflet from a health food shop and it said people with eczema are often very low in essential fatty acids - so I bought some eye -q omega 3/6 tablets from a health food shop.

I cut out all dairy - using coconut milk or soya milk instead.

No Sugar, I bought Dairy Free chocolate sweetened with Xylitol from [url]Plamil Foods Ltd[/url]

Foods rich in zinc sich as porridge, almonds , green vegetables .

In the meantime I went onto allergy uk website and they advised me which clinic was in my area to get my daughter allergy tested. We found that she mainly has food intolerances ( milk & egg) rather than allergies but, is allergic to sesame and dust mites, naturally I have been using homeopathy to desenitise her to milk, egg and dustmites.

topically , I am now no longer using steroids, it has taken a year to get off them , I use and calamine and zinc and glycerine cream from boots for when she has flare ups and I make my own ointment from apricot oil and jojoba wax to nourish the skin, I have to use this 4 times a day.

this has probably been the hardest year of my life, but, its all been worth it..

please let me know how you get on ,

xx

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Hello,

I have just found this forum on an epic search for advice. My daughter (she's four) has developed Eczema on her forearms. She's had it since about January. We've taken her to the doctors and she has been prescribed hydrocortizone ointment and aqueous cream.

Whilst the hydrocortizone cream works for a while, it is not something that I am overly happy with using and I would really like to get to the bottom of why this is flaring up.

I paid a visit to my local natural health shop who suggested I use something called Salcura Zeoderm which is a natural product. This was working really well for a while, but still it keeps flaring up.

I'm not thinking about getting her tested for intolerances/allergies but I am unsure as to who and how this works. Could anyone help suggest whether this is a good idea and if so, what's the best way to look for somewhere to get this done?

All help very gratefully received. I have a very itchy little girl and it's not very nice.

Idea x

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Hello,

I have just found this forum on an epic search for advice. My daughter (she's four) has developed Eczema on her forearms. She's had it since about January. We've taken her to the doctors and she has been prescribed hydrocortizone ointment and aqueous cream.

Whilst the hydrocortizone cream works for a while, it is not something that I am overly happy with using and I would really like to get to the bottom of why this is flaring up.

I paid a visit to my local natural health shop who suggested I use something called Salcura Zeoderm which is a natural product. This was working really well for a while, but still it keeps flaring up.

I'm not thinking about getting her tested for intolerances/allergies but I am unsure as to who and how this works. Could anyone help suggest whether this is a good idea and if so, what's the best way to look for somewhere to get this done?

All help very gratefully received. I have a very itchy little girl and it's not very nice.

Idea x

Hello. I can understand you not wanting to use Hydrocortisone. The key to eczema is emollients like Aqueous cream ....LOTS of it very often. You cannot use too much and they will do no harm. They literally just help put moisture back into the skin and by dropping the dryness help reduce the itching. Please do be sure you are using this often enough - and you can even use it instead of soap since soap can dry the skin. Steroid creams do help reduce the itching as well but can only be used short term. Yo be frank the reason many parents have problems with eczema is they don't use enough emollient cream . I know it may mean a lot of laundry and greasy sheets and greasy clothes tho. There are practical issues - and I do recognise that.

While allergies can be an issue - egg allergy is commonly linked to childhood asthma and eczema - it doesn't have to be allergic. However if you are concerned about this ask your doctor. While I know others will disagree I am a little wary of testing done in health food shops. However I am sure others will put the case FOR such testing 🙂

What caused the eczema to flare up in the first place/ If she has never had it before what was going on in the week or so before it flared up? There could be an emotional cause for this sort of thing.

Hope that helps a little

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ilivenaturally
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Not Chinese medicine, but natural and worth a try

Sorry to hear about your daughter's skin condition, it's so sad to watch little ones go through stuff like that. Hopefully you find something that works for her and helps.
Based on research I have done on ingredients I have been using I learned that some of them help with eczema, so they might be worth a try.

Try using organic cold pressed coconut oil as a moisturizer or adding a couple of tablespoons to her bath (I would use a couple of tablespoons to a baby bath, if using a regular bathtub add more). Cold pressed means that the oil was processed at temperatures below 116 degrees, allowing all of the oil's nutrients, enzymes and minerals to be preserved. The oil is actually kind of solid but it melts when you touch it. Apply it on the eczema patches and allow it to soak in.

Another thing that is effective is eating chia seeds. Chia is the highest plant source of Omega-3 known to man and has been reported as easing conditions like eczema and promoting wound healing. It's high in protein too, it has 20 to 23% protein content and is a complete protein containing all the essential amino acids more than that found in traditional cereals such as wheat (13.7%), corn (9.4%), rice (6.5%), oatmeal (16.9%) and barley (12.5%)An adult doesn't need more than 2 tablespoons a day, and they're super easy to incorporate into your daily diet. I put them in my yogurt every day (add to yogurt, stir, let sit until they soften a bit and enjoy). They can be sprinkled on cereal, or pretty much on anything you can think of. If your kid likes peanut butter mix it in that. They are flavorless so they're easy to sneak in 😉

Both coconut oil and chia seeds can be found at your local grocery store or health food store.
Good luck! I hope you find something that works for her soon.

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Alison1957
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My 3 year old daughter has now had a skin prick test against dairy and soya. It was all clear.

However, when she has dairy, she gets really bad nappy rash.

Anyone know of any Chinese medicine type therapies we can try on her? Conventional medicine has not been very successful.

At the moment, we are using some form of 50% liquid paraffin, 50% white soft paraffin mixture, wet wrapped in a bandage. It helps but only if we do this every single day and have her wet wrapped 24 hours a day...

After the 24 hours, we wash her with some oil formula from the doctors and nothing else.

It helps in-terms of temporarily healing the skin. As soon as the wet wrap is removed, she starts scratching herself almost instantly and within 5 minutes, you can see the rash forming again, covering most of her body.

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Alison1957
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Are you still having problems with your little girl? I know it's a while ago. Aloe vera gelly would be great for her. It's very gentle but could sting a little initially. Or you could propolis cream. That would help too.

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Hi,

I thought that I would update this. So, nearly a year on and we're almost there with the eczema.

After getting nowhere with the doctor, it was suggested to me by a friend that we see a homeopath along with getting a hair test done. The hair test was interesting in that it suggested that my daughter was carrying a bacterial infection that was introduced to her when she was a baby and had the swine flu injection. The test was really revealing in that they could tell all the instances that she had been ill over pretty much her lifetime. They prescribed some salts that really helped for this.

We have also been seeing a homeopath and in conjunction with trying to make sure that she eats as well as possible for a four year old, she gets enough sleep, putting on lots of moisturiser (barefoot SOS is good, along with Salcura Zeoderm work best for us), the eczema is nearly all gone.

So, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I appreciate to some that this would seem like a bit of a non-traditional route, but the doctor was of no use whatsoever. They treat the symptoms but not the cause.

I now realise that in times of stress, it can get worse and that it is important to try and be as calm as possible….even when she is being a typical little girl.

Thank you all for your suggestions.

Idea xx

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rogerg01
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I hope and pray your daughter will get well soon

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Rebecca44
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Would taking fish oil (this is for an adult) help ? Husband has eczema and it will not go away.

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Great to hear you found a solution. And you're so right about the doctors. Always ready to dish out medicines but never keen to go to the root of the problem!!

I remember my sister had real problems treating eczema in my eldest niece and it was so painful having to watch her suffer like that, the poor little mite.

May I ask what were the salts you were prescribed?

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Brian Jones
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:)Mild soap and moisturizer will help when it comes to eczema. People with eczema should avoid taking very hot or very long showers, which can dry your skin. Anyway, just sharing my little knowledge about eczema.

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My comment may not be much use to anyone but my friend's daughter had exzema and asthma from a few months old. Aged 20 she went to Australia where both miraculously disappeared almost straight away. When she returns to the UK, both return. She believes that the cause is mould spores. My friend recalls that in one house they lived in when her daughter was small, the back of a built-in wardrobe was slightly damp and the clothes smelt mouldy. A medical research student has discovered recently that many CF and asthma patients are intolerant to a certain mould found in their blood. This may well lead to better understanding and treatment.
Hoping your daughter is recovering.............

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