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silverhoodedowl
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My husband passed over with Prostrate cancer 8 years ago...
My question is this.....

Are those who are suffering with terminal cancer 'aided' to end their lives? Not at home but in hospitals?

Like a mercy killing?

SHO


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 4:10 pm
Tashanie
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No...because that is against the law in this country. However good palliative care will ensure the patient has adequate control of symptoms (pain, anxiety, sickness, breathing problems. excess secretions etc ) The fact is that many of the drugs used to relieve these symptoms can be fatal.

But I have seen patients we know to be terminal to live for several weeks pain free, symptom free and comfortable on a cocktail of potentially fatal drugs.


 
Posted : 06/06/2014 7:58 pm
silverhoodedowl
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I asked because the last time my husband was taken into hospital I received an emergency phone call the next morning to go to the hospital as he was fading away..

He was dead when I arrived. The doctor explained to me because he had been in so much pain during the night,they had given him a little more pain killer.....

I often wondered about that....


 
Posted : 07/06/2014 10:21 am
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I asked because the last time my husband was taken into hospital I received an emergency phone call the next morning to go to the hospital as he was fading away..

He was dead when I arrived. The doctor explained to me because he had been in so much pain during the night,they had given him a little more pain killer.....

I often wondered about that....

That is something anyone will wonder about. He is out of the pain and suffering. The ache of separation remains for the ones left behind.
Love to you beautiful silverhoodedowl


 
Posted : 07/06/2014 10:38 am
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It's a tricky one. My dad would have lived a little longer had they not given him so much diamorphine. But he would have lived another 2-3 days in increasing pain as the cancer took over. He was exactly enjoying his last week in the hospice either as he couldn't eat or drink (blocked oesophagus) and was knackered from a lack of energy (no food). And bored silly. He was a very active person and spent his last 6 months largely in bed. In a way, he had died 6 months before his actual death.


 
Posted : 07/06/2014 12:18 pm
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The aim of palliative care is to reduce suffering......strong pain killers like Diamorphine (which incidentally is heroin.....) reduce pain, can depress respiration and depress the central nervous system. Either of those side effects can be fatal. Thats what causes death when addicts overdose..

Did the pain killers hasten your husbands death? Possibly.......but if they had not given them to him he would have been in pain


 
Posted : 07/06/2014 2:35 pm
silverhoodedowl
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That is something anyone will wonder about. He is out of the pain and suffering. The ache of separation remains for the ones left behind.
Love to you beautiful silverhoodedowl

Thank you for your lovely answer.....I must admit when I saw him in the hospital,he looked so relaxed and at peace. His limbs were straight not curled up in constant pain....


 
Posted : 08/06/2014 6:59 pm
silverhoodedowl
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The aim of palliative care is to reduce suffering......strong pain killers like Diamorphine (which incidentally is heroin.....) reduce pain, can depress respiration and depress the central nervous system. Either of those side effects can be fatal. Thats what causes death when addicts overdose..

Did the pain killers hasten your husbands death? Possibly.......but if they had not given them to him he would have been in pain

Thank you for giving me that,Tashanie......just to pop a little of the afterlife in here,the day before he 'saw' his twin brother who passed over three days after he was born.
Nice to know they are together again.....


 
Posted : 08/06/2014 7:02 pm
Tashanie
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I believe the dying often see those who have gone before. Maybe they are hallucinations caused by the drugs (another side effect) but then again.....maybe not. I have a VERY open mind on that


 
Posted : 08/06/2014 7:09 pm
silverhoodedowl
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I am a believer that those from the spirit world visit us,waiting for us to pass when our time comes. Imagine arriving alone in a strange place wondering where we are....
and no one there to greet us.

But to be honest I have doubts like you.....I think everyone has regardless of what we experience in our lives....
Better to be doubtful than proved wrong and feeling a complete idiot.:oops:


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 7:25 am
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I have no doubts about this.


 
Posted : 09/06/2014 5:54 pm
Tashanie
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I have no doubts about this.

Then you are very lucky 🙂


 
Posted : 10/06/2014 8:21 am
Crowan
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As I mentioned in another thread, shamans (and, to a lesser extent, shamanic practitioners) deal with taking people to the land of the dead so often and dealing with souls who have failed to get there by themselves, that there can be no doubt. It would be like doubting the corner shop.

However, I can't see why anyone would have to feel a "complete idiot" no matter what they believed.


 
Posted : 10/06/2014 9:22 am
silverhoodedowl
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Interesting. How do you know who are the lost souls? (I might be one myself one day....:(


 
Posted : 10/06/2014 11:44 am
Crowan
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We search for those we are asked to search for - someone dies, for example, and a relative will say, "Will you check up on .... please?" so we go and do it.
Sometimes it is obvious there will be a problem - I dealt will ancestors who died in the Sheffield Flood of 1864.
If someone I know personally dies, I will check if they are okay as a matter of course.


 
Posted : 10/06/2014 11:51 am
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