RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
I presume you do not dispute Heaney's work Human serum 25-hydroxycholecalciferol response to extended oral dosing with cholecalciferol Conclusions: Healthy men seem to use 30005000 IU cholecalciferol/d, apparently meeting > 80% of their winter cholecalciferol need with cutaneously synthesized accumulations from solar sources during the preceding summer months
and
Effects of Above Average Summer Sun Exposure on Serum 25-Hydroxyvitamin D and Calcium Absorption
Findings from earlier work indicate that our subjects' sun exposure was equivalent in 25(OH)D production to extended oral dosing with 70 µg/d vitamin D3 (interquartile range, 4196) or, equivalently, 2800 IU/d (interquartile range, 16403840). Despite this input, at the late winter visit, 25(OH)D was less than 50 nmol/liter in 3 subjects and less than 75 nmol/liter in 15 subjects.
As it is the case that the body uses 3-5000iu daily and outdoor workers in Omaha (Lat 42=Rome) make on average less than their body needs the suggestion for the exposure of more skin and increased use of supplements suggested by Hollis/Cannell et al in The urgent need to recommend an intake of vitamin D that is effectiveis clearly the way to go. Vitamin D from food sources will never meet the bodies daily need so while any improvement in the uptake of Vitamin D via the digestive tract will be helpful dietary intakewill not and cannot solve the Hypovitaminosis D in British adults at age 45 yr: epidemic.
One does not have to be an expert in Autism to appreciate the role of vitamin d in brain development. The section
Vitamin D and the Brain
[link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml ]Is vitamin D required for normal brain development?[/link]
[link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd1 ]Does maternal vitamin D deficiency injure the developing brain?[/link]
[link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd2 ]Is autism an ongoing destructive inflammatory disease process?[/link]
[link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd3 ]Do brains function better with higher vitamin D?[/link]
[link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd4 ]Does vitamin D explain the role of vaccines, mercury, and heavy metals?[/link]
Provides sufficient information and more is available at pubmed to show the impact of low vitamin d status on brain function.
The fact remains that the benefits of optimal vitamin D status are so profound that anyone would be ill advised to rely on current Official Medical Advice regarding sun exposure or the official recommended daily intake.
Others may find [link= http://forum.lowcarber.org/showpost.php?p=6684892&postcount=1524 ]Zuleikaa's fact sheet interesting.[/link]
Vitamin D Facts
Vitamin D deficiency is implicated in over 80 diseases and has been proven to prevent or remit 28 kinds of cancers. Vitamin D is a powerful steroidal hormone that tells the body how to work and controls a wide variety of cellular functions, not just calcium regulation and bone growth.
If it hurts to press firmly on the breastbone, you might have chronic vitamin D deficiency.
Other signs of vitamin D deficiency:
Arthritis, bone, muscle, and/or joint pain, lack of leg and other muscle strength; lack of balance, rickets, osteomalacia, osteoporosis, need for joint replacement
Susceptibility to sunburn, fragile skin that easily tears, cracked dry skin, eczema, psoriasis, rosacea
Tiredness, depression, Seasonal Effective Disorder (SAD),Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
Diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, hyperparathyroidism,
Immune system and Auto immune diseases: Asthma, Lupus, TB, MS, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Celiac, Crohn's, Parkinson's, rheumatoid arthritis, Fibromyalgia, chronic infections
PMS, heavy bleeding, fibroids, infertility, PCOS, low testosterone/estr
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
ORIGINAL: Rustic
Canyou provide links to anything Bruce Hollis has published on autism?
I'll take that as a no then 😉
Does Heaney satisfyyour criteria for "expert"i.e.
"People who have spent their whole lives researching the subject. (Autism)
People who have produced accurate, published, peer reviewed papers year after year for the last 30 yrs. (On Autism).
Interesting though the quotes you have cut and pasted are, when read in full in context they make no mention of treatment of autism by means of vitamin d supplementation.
Have you any evidence at all of successful treatment (not prevention) of autism by the use of vitamin d supplements?
Having given us a lot ofquotes about the suggested use of vitamin d in the prevention of diseases and ailments such as cancer, arthritis etc would you tell a cancer patient that taking vitamin d would cure them? or that vitamin d deficiency was the cause of their cancer? or that they should undertake vitamin d supplementation without investigating any other forms of treatment, or that getting another professional opinion before doing so implied that theywere "Totally ridiculous, absolutely bonkers. You'll be asking for a medical opinion before you open a tin of sardines next. ??
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
It should be fairly obvious that a NEW theory is by definition NEW and will not have been considered before. Therefore expecting to find evidence of links between Autism and Vitamin d before anyone had everthought there may be such a connection seems somewhat absurd.
Over the next few years, it will probably be at least 20 before action is taken, (USA has been fortifying with folate since 1998 and we are just considering it) we may see more evidence to support this theory. The question is what to do in the intervening time. Is it better to ignore the Autism/vitamin d theory or is it better/safer to acknowledge there may be a connection and act as if it were a plausible theory.
Common Sense tells us that a brain cannot be expected to operate properly when it has less than optimal amounts of those substances it needs to perform perfectly. You do not need to be an expert in brains or autism to recognise the obvious.
It has been demonstrated that cognitive function is improved when optimal vitamin dstatus is reached, the same applies to physical performance andimmune response.
If you consider it wise to restrict the amount of Vitamin d you and your family receive by adhering to the current official guidelines for diet or sun exposure that is your business but it's my opinionbased on my study of the latestVitamin d research that having optimal Vitamin d status, so the body/brain/immune system can operate unrestricted by any deficiency status will be better and safer, not only for the average member of the public but also for those with Autism.
Those people who have a financial interest or whose Career prospects depend on the continuing current perceptions of any condition will be the most reluctant to accept any information that damages their income source or career prospects. Many people for instance claim DLA motability for problems associated with walking, replace their hips and although we know most will be required to walk more than 50yds daily after the operation most (human nature being what it is) will be reluctant to return their blue badge or end their DLA claim.
In the same way Charities dependant on MS/CANCER for their existence will be last to acknowledge that Vitamin D may reduce/prevent cancer/ms incidence. Their careers/income/mortgages are all dependent on the continuation of current incidence patterns. They are not going to be keen to do anything that significantly reduces their own prospects of financial well being.
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
ORIGINAL: Rustic
would you tell a cancer patient that taking vitamin d would cure them? or that vitamin d deficiency was the cause of their cancer? or that they should undertake vitamin d supplementation without investigating any other forms of treatment, or that getting another professional opinion before doing so implied that theywere "Totally ridiculous, absolutely bonkers. You'll be asking for a medical opinion before you open a tin of sardines next. ??
I'll take that as a no then. 😉
I think we can summarise this thread that Dr Cannell has a theory which he agrees is not yet proven, which says that vitamin d may prevent various diseases. There is no evidence, and nobody appears to be saying that vitamin d supplementation can cure these diseases once they are established i.e. vitamin D may have value as a preventative.
I find it amazing that just because I do not believe in your theory that vitamin d will cure autism, that you have jumped to the conclusion that I am restricting my family's access to vitamin d. You have made assumptions about me as a parent which are quitebluntly wrong, and at times extremely offensive.
"Many people for instance claim DLA motability for problems associated with walking, replace their hips and although we know most will be required to walk more than 50yds daily after the operation most (human nature being what it is) will be reluctant to return their blue badge or end their DLA claim. "
How is this relevant to a discussion on autism in children?
"NEW" unproven theoriesbeing presented as a treatment for autism help nobody, and can do irrepairable harm if taken out of context. Are you prepared to accept that the treatment of autism is a complex subject which some of us have been researching and practising for a number of years, with some success with children with early intervention?
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
In the same way that those who have a financial interest in prolonging their disability status are reluctant to admit there may be a way to reduce their disability or that their level of disability has been reduce (bb example) so cancer/ms charities are reluctant to admit (in the same way you have displayed) there may be a route to reduce the incidence /severity of cancer/MS/autism.
It is simply untrue to say that there isn't sufficienct evidence to say that high vitamin d status reduces cancer incidence.
It is simply untrue to say that there isn't sufficient evidence to saythat high vitamin d status reduces MS incidence.
It is true that (as the theory was only proposed publicly on 28th May the day I posted The Vitamin D Council newsletter here) as yet there is little backing (apart from those links available from the Vitamin d article linked to in the original post) for this theory.
The issue you appear to be avoiding is what is the safest option, to ignore Dr Cannell's theory that Autism ispossibly likely to arise as a result of poor Vitamin d status during pregnancy and during lactation and allow the current Vitamin D insufficiency epidemic to continue unrecognised by the general public, or to play safe and ensure optimal vitamin d status of pregnant and nursing mothers and to ensure all children, in particular those with Autistic Spectrum Disorders, are adequatelysun- (or dietary-) Vitamin d replete sothe vitamin D endocrine system functions in a fashion as do other steroid synthetic pathways, not limited by substrate availability.
No harm can come to anyone who has optimal vitamin d status.
No one is suggesting or has ever suggested, that while evidence is being collected to support this particulartheory other theories, therapies, treatments should not proceed as currently. The only outcomes from having this theory published in the public domain are beneficial.
It is beneficial that parents of Autistic children read [link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-deficiency-and-autism.shtml#hd1 ]Does vitamin D explain autism's frequent infections?[/link]understand that their children may be more prone to infections and that [link= http://iportti.net/?14@@.59857331 ]The sunshine superstar: study reveals Vitamin D as 'wonder vitamin'[/link] infections will be reduced by 70% if adequate intakes of Vitamin d are provided.
It is of benefit to parents of Autistic children to read [link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd4 ]Does vitamin D explain the role of vaccines, mercury, and heavy metals?[/link]as having sufficient Vitamin d in the brain enhances it's ability to deal with heavy metals if these are proved to be implicated in Autism.
I nothing but the utmost contempt for the disease mongering[link= http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=19253#risk ]Cancer UK[/link] for presenting the case for acquiringoptimal Vitamin d status in an such a biased manner. (No one would guess from reading their information 30 low vitamin d status cancer deaths occur for each sunburn induced skin cancer.)
I have nothing but the utmost contempt for [link= http://www.mssociety.org.uk/about_ms/everyday_living/diet_and_nutrition/introduction_to.html ]The MS Society[/link] for failing to inform their members of the links between MS incidence and progression and Vitamin D status.
I have the same contempt for those who persistently try to discredit the Autism<> Vitamin d theory.
Where there is good evidence that cancer occurs less frequently and progresses more slowly in Vitamin D replete bodies the safest cheapest no risk option is to ensure people acquire optimum Vitamin d status.
Where there is good evidence MS occurs less frequently and progressesmore slowlyin Vitamin D replete bodies then the safest cheapest no risk option is to ensure people acquire optimum Vitamin d status.
Where there is a good theory, backed by logical argument and good research b
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
As your post has not prompted a moderators intervention, I am assuming that there are no moderator objections to my making a response.
Firstly we had mothers being given the impression that they could have avoided a child's autism if they had supplemented with vitamin d during pregnancy, or got more sunshine.
This then led to implying that anyone who didnt follow the vitamin d advice that you gave was committing a form of child abuse, despite the fact that you appear to know nothing about the realities of bringing up a child with autism.
Then claims that parents could sneak in at night with a sun lamp and give their autistic kids a quick uv top up, or bake cookies with hidden vitamin d without taking professional advice, despite their being enormous implications to an autistic child unrelated to vitamin d. You are also implying that you can treat autism with vitamin D, though the websites you quote to support this say nothing of the kind. None of the experts you quote are actually claiming to be able to treat autism with vitamin D. They are suggesting that vitamin D during pregnancy MAY help prevention.
Now you are implying that families would deliberately not seek help to reduce their childs disability/autism because of the financial loss of such benefits as DLA, which most parents of special needs children would find grossly offensive. This only shows your complete lack of understanding or empathy with parents who are bringing up children with disabilities.
I have not stated that autistic children should be kept vitamin d deficient. I have stated that I would choose a holistic treatment plan taking all the individual factors for a child into account rather than supplement with large doses of vitamin D alone.
For having dared to have expressed an opinion that does not coincide with yours, I am somehow deserving of your contempt, along apparently with the cancer charity and the MS society (although what they have to do with autism I dont know). Having looked at their websites referred to by you, they seem to attach importance to vitamin d, though perhaps not as aggressively as you would like.
You state I don't understand why you are not supporting my endeavours to encourage optimal vitamin d status in the public in general and more particularly in those with Autism. But maybe there is a reason.
Would you support anyone who is touting a miracle cure for autism, who obviously knows nothing about autism, who refuses to answer direct questions, stating that the questioner must be bonkers if they dont agree with you? Who is insistent that your side of the discussion must provide evidence for something that you havent even stated, whilst they dont have to because what they say is common sense?[sm=rollaugh.gif]
You are, quite frankly, the most offensive person I have ever had the misfortune to enter a discussion with, on this or any other forum.
Now do you understand the reason? 😉
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
Firstly we had mothers being given the impression that they could have avoided a child's autism if they had supplemented with vitamin d during pregnancy, or got more sunshine.
Those who are aware of the role of vitamin d in the development of the brain know that Vitamin D status of the mother directly impacts on the development of the fetus brain size. This is what the section Is vitamin D required for normal brain development? is detailing. It is a matter of fact that Vitamin d affects brain development that is why it is crucial that all mothers get plenty of vitamin d irrespective of whether or not the malformation of the brain due to low vitamin d status leads to autism or not. It isn't the mothers fault it is the fault of the medical profession not keeping up to date with the latest research. While they are waiting for the penny to drop it is important that others do not put future generations at risk. But if mothers take the prenatal vitamins and follow current medical advice they will be vitamin d insufficient, you cannot blame them, it is the quantity/quality of vitamin d in the vitamins that is at fault, it is the sunsmart advice they are given that is wrong. That is why you cannot trust health professionals advice on vitamin d at the moment. It is not based on the latest science. It is wrong, it is dangerously misguided. It understates the amount of vitamin d that is needed. It misleads mothers into remaining Vitamin D insufficient. It is current advice/information/vitamin d supplements that needs changing and I blame the Health Professionals not the mothers.
This then led to implying that anyone who didn't follow the vitamin d advice that you gave was committing a form of child abuse, despite the fact that you appear to know nothing about the realities of bringing up a child with autism.
As you know I am fully aware of the difficulties of dealing with autistic children which is why avoiding confrontation may be a useful strategy. I do believe that knowingly allowing your child to remain Vitamin d insufficient is tantamount to child abuse as would be deliberately failing to provide sufficient food or water.
Then claims that parents could sneak in at night with a sun lamp and give their autistic kids a quick uv top up, or bake cookies with hidden vitamin d without taking professional advice, despite their being enormous implications to an autistic child unrelated to vitamin d You are also implying that you can treat autism with vitamin D, though the websites you quote to support this say nothing of the kind. .
The use of whatever means necessary to correct vitamin d insufficiency, which [link= http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/3/860 ]most UK citizens demonstrate, [/link]is vital if further damage to the child/adult is to be avoided. It is the Vitamin d insufficiency state that is being corrected, whether this impacts on the Autism will be useful information which I hope readers to this forum will feed back. I'm sure many have tried using Cod Liver oil, and may have found it helpful, it is a good source of Vitamin d probably the best food source but not sufficient on it's own therefore even if you use Cod Liver Oil more vit d from other sources may be needed to correct Vitamin d insufficiency.
None of the experts you quote are actually claiming to be able to treat autism with vitamin D. They are suggesting that vitamin D during pregnancy MAY help prevention.
You are wrong. see this page [link= http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd2 ]http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd2[/link]why can't you see that if the argument here is correct, then reducing the inflammatory process will lead to a reduction of further damage caused by the inflammation.
Now you are implying that families would deliberately not seek help to reduce their child's disability/autism because of the financial loss of such benefits as DLA, which most p
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
"As you know I am fully aware of the difficulties of dealing with autistic children which is why avoiding confrontation may be a useful strategy. I do believe that knowingly allowing your child to remain Vitamin d insufficient is tantamount to child abuse as would be deliberately failing to provide sufficient food or water. "
"The use of whatever means necessary to correct vitamin d insufficiency, which [link= http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/3/860 ]most UK citizens demonstrate, [/link]is vital if further damage to the child/adult is to be avoided. It is the Vitamin d insufficiency state that is being corrected, whether this impacts on the Autism will be useful information which I hope readers to this forum will feed back. "
"It is harmless. It is cheap."
Avoiding confrontation may be a useful strategy? [sm=rollaugh.gif]
Whatever means necessary?
You appear to be stating that, not reinforcing food phobia by forcing a child to take a supplement they may or may not need, or being prepared to risk serious injury to parent or child by the forced use of a sunbed is the equivalent of not providing food and water and tantamount to child abuse? What planet are you on??
On what experience do you claim you are “aware” that there are difficulties of dealing with autistic children? What do you think would be the results of an autistic child waking up in the middle of the night to find that the people they trust have invaded their personal space with strange equipment and have removed their night clothes to treat them by force?
Do you not think that what you are proposing might have a serious effect on a child’s anxiety levels, or make the child afraid to go to sleep again in case it happened again? Or that a confrontation in the middle of the night (or any other time) could cause serious injury to a child or a parent? Have you not heard of self-injurious behaviour? Extreme sensory issues?
Do you honestly hope that readers of this forum who aren’t deliberately keeping their children disabled in order to milk the benefits system will feed back information about such forced treatments, obtained by “any means necessary?” to support Dr Cannell’s unsubstantiated THEORY which doesn’t get past the fact that for CENTURIES, environmental conditions and social customs of many societies meant that they did not receive the amount of sunlight now being proposed as being necessary to be vitamin d sufficient? That these cultures somehow found ways of avoiding epidemics of degenerative disease and autism without supplementing with large doses of vitamin D? i.e. that there may be other factors to take into account?
And for what at the end of the day? To provide “feedback” for your personal vendetta against the health professionals who you seem to think us poor misguided parents think we need to consult before opening a tin of sardines? For your vitamin d/autism crusade, which in any event will at best be described as “anecdotal? ” Based on experimental procedures that I suggest wouldn’t even get past the ethics committee acting on behalf of the average lab rat, let alone a child with autism?
And the most outrageous thing is that you are expecting parents of autistic children to do it for you in a mass uncontrolled experiment which would be laughed at by the “experts” you hold in such high regard…………… well if that doesn’t take the (vitamin d soaked) biscuit. [:'(]
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
Well that just about takes the biscuit.
The experiment that the health professionals deployed and is still ongoing is to artificially restrict Vitamin d supplies by suggesting that all sun exposure is dangerous and before people go outside they should either cover up or apply sunblock. Suggesting that people return to the days when regular limited sunexposure without sunscreen was general practice is not an experiment it is simply recognising the fact that we evolved with a skin colour appropriate for the latitude of the indigenous people of that skin colour. see [url]Google images [/url] allowing the skin to work in the way it naturally evolved for isn't an experiment it's common sense.
The result of this mass experimentation is found in the low levels of vitamin d which the majority of the UK/USA population now experience. We cannot blame health professionals for acting as they did 20 yrs ago when the role of Vitamin d was unknown. But we do now know that Vitamin D is used in tissues all over the body, these tissues manufacture the metabolite that fights infection and cancer proliferation in situ as the need arises. Now we know that Vitamin d isn't just for bones but for the stable operation not only of the brain but enzyme reactions throughout the body, it is imperative that everyone (particularly those with autism) has optimal Vitamin d status.
If you want the best for your child, autistic or not, you will try to ensure they have adequate exposure to sunlight or the nearest equivalent. The skin is your largest peripheral endocrine organ. It needs exposure to sunlight or equivalent to operate in the way nature intended. Of course no one should risk harming their child in the process but the reader must be aware that low vitamin d status allows so many chronic conditions to flourish that every effort should be made to rectify an insufficiency situation where this is suspected.
You may be interested to know that my suggestion for dissolving a Cholecalciferol capsule in oil and applying that to the skin is in fact an orthodox way of supplying Vitamin d as there is a Transermal D3 cream that does the same job.
Having antimicrobial peptides operating on the skin surface is part of your immune defence strategy, ignore this fact and you have a less than optimal immune system, if sunlight/sunlamps aren't an option then maybe a cream might help.
RE: Autism and Vitamin D3
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As your post has not prompted a moderators intervention, I am assuming that there are no moderator objections to my making a response.
May I respectfully point out here that it is simply not possible for the moderators to immediately read every post as and when it appears on the forums, so such an assumption is perhaps best not made.
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I tried D3
Hi. Sorry to break in on an old argument. Just wanted to say, I read Cannell's hypothesis on the Vit D council site, and it was a possible fit with my experience in pregnancy - which was in the winter, and I would have had very little D from diet. My Asperger's son is a March baby. I didn't supplement while breastfeeding because I didn't realise my milk would be low in D. And he got v little D, almost none, from then till v recently because he doesnt eat fish or eggs and dislikes the sun.
So I thought it was worth trying supplementing him, little to be lost if I watched carefully to make sure the known side-effects didn't occur. And - of course it could be down to other things, he's not in a bubble - his mood changed remarkably, his separation anxiety almost vanished, his cheeks became pink, his concentrationa and socialbility also improved.
It could be a coincidence. Or it could be that there is something important in this D theory for maybe a sub-section of autistic children. There is research going on into this now, so we may have the first results soon. Meanwhile, there would be no harm in having autistic children tested for their D status and supplementing if it is low. At the worst it will help their bones and perhaps their teeth.
tedhutchinson, there are none so blind as those who will not see. I endorse ALL of your comments in the area of well-being and only wish all of those afflicted with cancer would feel as great as I do.
kcat
Hi there, I haven't read all the posts, however I read something recently written by Bernard Rimland Ph.D. who talks specifically of Vit B6 and magnesium:
http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=79&db=2&C0=1
Andrew Wakefield did a significant amount of research on treating the gut, which is normally abnormal in Autistic children, with very good results. (now sadly discredited by GMC, but for all the wrong reasons). Thankfully, other researchers are now proving his theories to be true.
This has come recommended, detoxification of childs system of heavy metals can improve their condition:
Hi there, I haven't read all the posts, however I read something recently written by Bernard Rimland Ph.D. who talks specifically of Vit B6 and magnesium: http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=79&db=2&C0=1
Hi Maya
I have a bit of a personal interest in magnesium at the moment from the mood and digestion perspective... rather than any interest in autism. Hence as I was hoping to find out more interesting stuff about magnesium I found Dr Rimlaud's testimony very disappointing since the only text on magnesium and B6 in it was as follows!!
"...almost half of all autistic children and adults respond favorably to high doses of vitamin B6 and magnesium., with no adverse effects."
That's it. Nothing else! I'd love to know more - so do you know of anything more substantial on the subject that you could point me towards? I'd be very grateful if you could.
Thanks so much, Ava x