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(@bertramfinks)
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Hi folks. There is something quite cathartic about spilling your inner most to people you don't know. So here goes. I have been drinking heavily for about 15 years now and hiding it well. Very well in fact as i work in the fitness industry and mental health services. I have recently tried to go cold turkey and managed 2 days. I felt bloody awful, irritable, anxious, shakes and headaches. I know why i drink and stopping drinking made the reasons stand out more. We addicts all have reasons why we do what we do. So, how do you defeat them? The drink is the easy bit really.


 
Posted : 17/06/2012 12:11 am
Tashanie
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Hi folks. There is something quite cathartic about spilling your inner most to people you don't know. So here goes. I have been drinking heavily for about 15 years now and hiding it well. Very well in fact as i work in the fitness industry and mental health services. I have recently tried to go cold turkey and managed 2 days. I felt bloody awful, irritable, anxious, shakes and headaches. I know why i drink and stopping drinking made the reasons stand out more. We addicts all have reasons why we do what we do. So, how do you defeat them? The drink is the easy bit really.

I was married to someone who had a major alcohol problem - and now I am a hypnotherapist trying to help people with similar problems to yours.

I am also a pharmacist and I can tell you going cold turkey is dangerous. So don't. Admit you need help and go to your GP. Because you cannot defeat it alone.

You are an intelligent man. You know that your behaviour is self destructive. And my guess is the thoughts that drive the behaviour are just as self destructive.

That is what you need to deal with . If you were sitting in my therapy chair I would ask you all sorts of questions. But you are not and I cannot second guess what we would find out if you were my patient. But I know that together we would identify the destructive thought patterns and find strategies to change them. It can be done. but you need to spill those innermost thoughts to a professional who can help you sort them out.

You are right - the drinking is the easy bit. But if you really WANT to stop drinking you can with appropriate professional help.

Good luck


 
Posted : 17/06/2012 9:46 am
(@bertramfinks)
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You are right. The thoughts that drive the drinking are just as bad in a way. Drinking masks them and when you don't drink they are there in glorious Technicolour.


 
Posted : 17/06/2012 12:18 pm
CarolineN
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You are right. The thoughts that drive the drinking are just as bad in a way. Drinking masks them and when you don't drinkthey are there in glorious Technicolour.

You might like to have a look at EFT as a way of supporting your withdrawal from the alcohol. There have been some amazing results, but I would not recommend this without the support of a well-qualified [DLMURL="http://www.aamet.org/search/search-aamet-members-test.html"]practitioner[/DLMURL]. One of the great things about EFT is that once you know the tapping points you can be guided over the phone/skype by the practitioner so you can choose someone some distance away to work with. Have a look at some of these stories here, here and here. And do look at the videos on the main site - watch the clients' faces to see the change in them.

There is help out there, but it takes courage to seek it out, and you have already done that by posting on here - so the next step is ...

Wishing you all the best.

Oh, and it might be useful to start taking a quality general vitamin and mineral supplement like [url]this one[/url], but your best bet to get your body better balanced physically is to see a [url]registered nutritional therapist[/url] who will assess exactly what you need.


 
Posted : 17/06/2012 6:21 pm
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I know why i drink and stopping drinking made the reasons stand out more. We addicts all have reasons why we do what we do. So, how do you defeat them? The drink is the easy bit really.

It's good news that you know the reasons for your drinking (many people don't and think that it is the alcohol or another substance that's the main problem - but in reality it is an attempt at a solution, however damaging it may be).

Do be really careful with the way you try to cut down on your drinking - going cold Turkey can be very dangerous, please do get medical help to detox properly if you want to stop again. In my experience as a psychotherapist (I have a specialist interest in addictions) it isn't enough to cut down on or stop the addictive substance - unless the underlying issues are addressed people tend to move from one addiction to another, e.g. from heroin to alcohol, from cocaine to compulsive sex or gambling, from cigarettes to sweets etc. As you know why you drink it is a really good start and if you can get the support to help address those challenges in your life you'll be well on your way to recovery.

There are lots of helpful websites and sources of support, but I do like this one especially [url]Empowering people to tackle substance use problems - Wired In (Wired Initiative)[/url]. It can be really difficult to face recovery on your own, so do ask for help from friends and family (if you can), and find a health professional whom you could trust.

Best of luck


 
Posted : 19/06/2012 8:16 am
(@nell-ellison)
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I would also advise seeking professional advice.There are evidenced based psychological therapies for alcohol dependence. See [url]National Treatment Agency for Substance Misuse - Clinical Guidance[/url] for more details.
Kind regards,
Nell


 
Posted : 08/07/2012 9:22 pm
(@kndge9584)
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alcohol is a very dangerous for our body. this makes a man very harmfulness


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 10:46 am
(@phillywilly)
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hi there , going cold turkey IS very dangerous , due a doctor i wouldnt reccomend to my worst enemy i had a couple of fits/seizures ,which i know now could have been fatal .
im 35 have ADHD therefore at nights i find im wearing 5 thinking caps !! lol, and due to this final straw with my gp i changed to another gp with hospitals advice .
i started off drinking a few beers to relax+switch off at night ,which got more+more as the demon drink does ! ( got 2 a point where id drink a bottle of vodka or rum a night ! ) , anyway i cut right bk down to a few beers for obvious health reasons .

to cut this short ,i travel+party alot with work ,free drink+invites to clubs 😮 , a month ago had a mad 4 days ,free champaigne wine rum u name it ,i was like gazza ! ended up in a+e severly de-hydrated+gasstronitis (excuse the spelling) ,released nxt day+told strongly to go to my gp + get meds to stop shaking ect , docs orders where " sweat it out my boy ,drugs wont help " ? so i did , hence bk in a+e the night after with a fit .
morale o the story DONT GO COLD TURKEY cut down as much as u can untill you get prof advice+help , the hypnosis lady sounds good ,might look into that myself .as i still have active mind adhd issue , but dont harldly drink anymore . good luck .
phill.


 
Posted : 25/11/2012 8:51 pm
(@bertramfinks)
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I win

I've beaten it. Three months and counting. Thanks for the advice.


 
Posted : 10/04/2013 3:27 pm
(@lerry)
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I can understand your feeling. It feels really bad when you do not find alcohol and it makes mad. I will strongly suggest you that you can not draw yourself at once out of this habit. Just try to reduce the amount you drink and reduce it steadily.


 
Posted : 04/07/2013 11:55 am
(@romeo78)
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I think far too often we focus on the issue at hand (the alcohol abuse) rather than the underlying issue. It seems that you have a grasp on the fact that you need to treat the underlying problem before you will see any changes.

Keep in mind though that just the physical act of alcohol detoxification is horrendous and not recommended to do on your own. We are all proud of your three months!


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 7:49 am
Tashanie
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Wise words Romeo! The post you are replying to is nearly a year old tho. it would be wonderful to know how Bertram is doing now. Maybe he will see this thread and give us an update


 
Posted : 11/03/2014 8:41 am
(@brian-jones)
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I have a major problem dealing on alcohol too. Almost every single night, I’ve just been getting drunk. It was fun, yes, and no doubt about it. But it brings me many negative effects every time I passed out due to heavy drinking. It affects my family as well. I don’t want to this anymore, but every time I’ll try to stop I always get bored or an itch to do it and the next thing I knew, I’m back on my bad habit. It’s bringing me down. I know overcoming to this addiction can be a long and bumpy road. At times, I feel impossible. My maternal grandparents were both alcoholics, so if alcoholism being influenced by heredity, I’m probably tagged. I’m planning to consider going cold turkey. But they said it is dangerous and prove fatal. 🙁

I win

I've beaten it. Three months and counting. Thanks for the advice.

I envy you for that. How I hope I can beat this struggle too. 🙁


 
Posted : 17/06/2014 8:44 am
Tashanie
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Please do NOT just go cold Turkey Brian. it could be dangerous. Addiction is not inherited.....but what you can inherit is the tendency to become addicted. Also what can be inherited die to environmental and social factors is thought patterns and an approach to life to causes dependency on alcohol (or indeed any other substance) My late ex husband had massive alcohol problems. My son drinks very moderately.

You can take charge of your own life and your own thoughts......but you need some expert help. Please in the first instance go and see your GP or practise nurse. They can check you out and advise you if you can in fact just stop......which would be great. However 'just stopping' needs you to change your thoughts about alcohol, yourself, your life.......all the factors which lead you to drink too much......and counselling or hypnotherapy or CBT could be very helpful. Your GP may be able to signpost you to appropriate services.

You are not a bad or weak person because you have a problem with alcohol.....and you can beat this. Feel free to PM me if you would like to talk


 
Posted : 17/06/2014 6:13 pm
Crowan
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Addiction can also be 'inherited' through soul loss.


 
Posted : 17/06/2014 6:35 pm
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