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amy green
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Appalling what some people will do for money....
they must be psychopaths, i.e. no conscience/moral compass



 
Posted : 12/05/2017 4:18 pm
amy green
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Here is the full list of NHS places affected (scroll down)

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/nhs-hacked-full-list-hospitals-13027590


 
Posted : 12/05/2017 5:54 pm
amy green
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Further info/developments....so no one hear cares???? Jeez!

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/05/an-nsa-derived-ransomware-worm-is-shutting-down-computers-worldwide/

Apparently there's evidence that the ransomware was spreading using a Microsoft flaw exposed in a recent leak of information from U.S. intelligence agencies and affected computers likely had not applied the Microsoft patch or were running old operating systems for which no patch was available - so the attack is seen as random and not targeted.


 
Posted : 12/05/2017 11:09 pm
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Further info/developments....so no one hear cares???? Jeez!

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/05/an-nsa-derived-ransomware-worm-is-shutting-down-computers-worldwide/

Apparently there's evidence that the ransomware was spreading using a Microsoft flaw exposed in a recent leak of information from U.S. intelligence agencies and affected computers likely had not applied the Microsoft patch or were running old operating systems for which no patch was available - so the attack is seen as random and not targeted.

Amy, it's not that I don't care - I think the whole situation where we are so vulnerable to attack in such ways is awful. But I didn't have anything sensible to add to what you had written.

I did write something last night, but it sounded trite and sanctimonious, so I deleted it!


 
Posted : 13/05/2017 8:33 am
amy green
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I was hoping for more concern with members generally here....after all NHS is about our health!


 
Posted : 13/05/2017 10:31 am
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I haven't been on this site since the attack was known about until now. As an ex NHS worker I care VERY much about it. I have friends whose work was disrupted because they could not access their computers. It will undoubtedly make the NHS take cyber security seriously even though this attack was not targeted. I agree with Crowan. This shows how very vulnerable the world is to this sort of attack. Whether it's been done by one nation state (N Korea?????) or been done by a group of disaffected individuals out to show what they can do, to disrupt 'the establishment' we are all at risk.


 
Posted : 13/05/2017 5:08 pm
amy green
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I have learnt further info on this subject. Apparently computers with Windows XP are particularly affected/infected since this is a known vulnerability system.

The NHS operates on old computers with old systems and may well not be properly patched. I hope they have HD back up files! Maybe not since they had to cancel operations and turn people away from appointments. Or, could it be that their computers are locked into this ghastly situation whereby they cannot use them at all!? It has been hailed as a major national incident.

The last time this kind of thing occurred was on a smaller scale but systems recovered within 3 days....not sure that this will be the case this time though.


 
Posted : 13/05/2017 5:37 pm
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Some good news (here in UK) re. the recent ransomware cyber hack. All but 6 of the NHS trusts have now been restored/working once again due to NCSC (National Cyber Security Centre)


 
Posted : 13/05/2017 6:50 pm
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I have learnt further info on this subject. Apparently computers with Windows XP are particularly affected/infected since this is a known vulnerability system.

The NHS operates on old computers with old systems and may well not be properly patched. I hope they have HD back up files! Maybe not since they had to cancel operations and turn people away from appointments. Or, could it be that their computers are locked into this ghastly situation whereby they cannot use them at all!? It has been hailed as a major national incident.

The last time this kind of thing occurred was on a smaller scale but systems recovered within 3 days....not sure that this will be the case this time though.

And the NHS stopped paying Microsoft to provide them with security updates for the out dated software......


 
Posted : 13/05/2017 8:39 pm
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And the NHS stopped paying Microsoft to provide them with security updates for the out dated software......

Actually MS stopped making security patches for Windows XP but a new situation has now arisen

https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/13/15635006/microsoft-windows-xp-security-patch-wannacry-ransomware-attack


 
Posted : 14/05/2017 11:37 am
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I've read so many comments on line saying more or less - how can big organisations still rely on XP, when it is no longer protected?
And I wonder where these commentators think the NHS is going to get the money to constantly update.
FedEx and the others might afford it, but not the NHS.

In many ways the constant updating of technology and the phasing out of support for old technology holds us all to ransom.


 
Posted : 14/05/2017 1:34 pm
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I've read so many comments on line saying more or less - how can big organisations still rely on XP, when it is no longer protected?
And I wonder where these commentators think the NHS is going to get the money to constantly update.
FedEx and the others might afford it, but not the NHS.

In many ways the constant updating of technology and the phasing out of support for old technology holds us all to ransom.

You may well know that the 'new' computer overhaul system, designed to replace the old NHS one, got abandoned due to cost.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/18/nhs-records-system-10bn


 
Posted : 14/05/2017 1:47 pm
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Maybe time to consider Linux?


 
Posted : 14/05/2017 4:54 pm
amy green
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Maybe time to consider Linux?

Maybe time to consider more seriously supporting the NHS financially....as everyone know, it's on its knees - in crisis; so many suffering needlessly because of the Government's decisions. Deplorable. Labour would reverse this.


 
Posted : 14/05/2017 5:30 pm
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You may well know that the 'new' computer overhaul system, designed to replace the old NHS one, got abandoned due to cost.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/18/nhs-records-system-10bn

Goodness, yes. Thanks. I'd forgotten that.


 
Posted : 14/05/2017 8:16 pm
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