Jnani, thank you, yes I did initially haave fears etc but the more I think of it I know Im ok.
What do I suggest if he is indeed gone beyond Reiki, as I would not be familiar with Kundalini
Hi Star
Paul's (and your) solution to "reverse the attunement procedure" may actually work on a psychological level - if it is really the Reiki that is the cause of this depression (or if your student believes it is).
However, can anyone really de-attune someone to something we all already had before the attunement? In my understanding, an attunement simply increases our awareness of something we all already have, thereby enabling us to use this awareness to help ourselves and others. Many believe Reiki to be our true nature or our Divine Spark or similar term. Once we become aware of it, how easy can it be to become unaware of a thing that is such an essential part of us (and everything else: if Reiki is Universal it must be everywhere, yes?)? I am sure many of us know how difficult it becomes not to notice a tiny flaw or blemish on something once we have been made aware of it. Unfortunately, I don't think our awareness of Reiki can be removed quite so easily as a smudge or mark can be wiped away or a blemish repaired.
I would be very surprised if giving a successful Reiki treatment to someone could cause a bout of depression in the practitioner. However, if the form of giving a Reiki session involved the practitioner opening themselves up to allow something external to flow through them then there is always the chance that something less benign than Reiki could enter. Hawayo Takata said that the "true energy" lies within and I also believe that Reiki emanates from within.
I would suggest that they discuss their feelings with a person who is qualified to deal with people in depressive states. The use of more Reiki in this instance may only serve to aggravate the situation if the student believes Reiki to be the cause of the depression (although in reality it would almost certainly help them understand that Reiki is not the cause and would return them to a state of balance).
Unfortunately, depression is a very common occurrence nowadays but, as someone else mentioned, the actual cause of it may not be what the sufferer believes it to be.
Ai to hikari
Colin
He would never have had depression but had some issues from childhood which we used many EFT sessions for, he also had reiki treatments in btween.He said he had his life back and decided he would like to do reiki level 1.I actually gave him his manual well before the class and went through any questions he had beforehand.He has been attuned about 8 weeks now and said his life was wonderful but this change only happened after he gave my daughtere a treatment on Sunday evening, not immediately afterwards but within a few days
Jnani, thank you, yes I did initially haave fears etc but the more I think of it I know Im ok.
What do I suggest if he is indeed gone beyond Reiki, as I would not be familiar with Kundalini
Check within to see how you feel about walking with him any further. Do you feel, this is it. or you feel you will be able to help him with his symptoms and mind states?
If you feel for some reason, you can or can't help him. Honour that.
Once you are clear within, you will know, the right person/situation will come about if thats what need to happen
Hi Colin
Paul's (and your) solution to "reverse the attunement procedure" may actually work on a psychological level - if it is really the Reiki that is the cause of this depression (or if your student believes it is).
However, can anyone really de-attune someone to something we all already had before the attunement? In my understanding, an attunement simply increases our awareness of something we all already have, thereby enabling us to use this awareness to help ourselves and others. Many believe Reiki to be our true nature or our Divine Spark or similar term. Once we become aware of it, how easy can it be to become unaware of a thing that is such an essential part of us (and everything else: if Reiki is Universal it must be everywhere, yes?)? I am sure many of us know how difficult it becomes not to notice a tiny flaw or blemish on something once we have been made aware of it. Unfortunately, I don't think our awareness of Reiki can be removed quite so easily as a smudge or mark can be wiped away or a blemish repaired.
We are all an integral part of the Oneness, the healing modalities are created within the oneness to help people to heal and come to terms with themselves, before Usui created the Reiki modality it did not exist before that time but the Oneness of consciousness that it uses as the driving force did, the Reiki modality is not the Oneness, so no nobody has Reiki until it is given to them.
The removal of the Reiki modality from someones existence will not disconnect them from what they already are within the Oneness, it will simply remove the healing modality, the person will remain complete within the Oneness without the addition of the Reiki modality.
It is the Reiki modality that is triggering the inner conflicts within this persons consciousness that need resolving, the solution is to either heal and resolve the issues which are being triggered as an outward sign of an internal problem, or the remove the thing which is triggering the manifestations.
As far as I know, there is no teaching within the Western versions of Reiki which deals directly in a meaningful way to solve this type of inner conflict, so that leaves Star with one solution, to comply with what the person has asked for and de-attune them from the Reiki modality by using the reverse procedure and reversing the intention from giving the attunement to removing the attunement.
This will not resolve their inner conflicts, but neither will just leaving them with a trigger and doing nothing to resolve what is being triggered, but it will stop the conflicts being constantly triggered and the person can in a day or two go back to their chosen way of being.
He would never have had depression but had some issues from childhood which we used many EFT sessions for, he also had reiki treatments in btween.He said he had his life back and decided he would like to do reiki level 1.I actually gave him his manual well before the class and went through any questions he had beforehand.He has been attuned about 8 weeks now and said his life was wonderful but this change only happened after he gave my daughtere a treatment on Sunday evening, not immediately afterwards but within a few days
Sorry I didn't read this one before. This certainly tells me that it is kundalini and he is wading in deeper waters than what Reiki can handle
I'm sorry to hear that. 🙁
I don't even know if its possible to remove an attunement, is it? Has he received healing on himself to help clear any rising debris?
I would advise him to seek help for the depression though.
Thinking of you and sending love & light.
Hi all, have attuned six people to Reiki 1 and all have progressed nicely, some having problems with detoxification, others having only mild symptoms.Each student has been well informed on all information, all have had teatments prior to attunement and understood the journey.There is one student who had his attunement 8 weeks ago and had his ups and downs but came to me at the weekend and gave my daughter a treatment which was very powerful, she was delighted.Since this he has gone into a deep depression and has been physically very unwell.He phoned me tonight and said he wants me to remove the attunement as he feels suicidal, I have asked him to call to me tomorrrow, what do I do now?:(
Give him between 3-5 healings and see if that helps. I feel like her healing triggered memories for him in some way, that are painful. He needs to learn to detach from people when he is healing them, so he doesn't take on their pain. Lots of self-healing using emotional energy would be good for him and lots of meditation focusing on the tanden 3cm below the navel (as in Hatsu Rei Ho) which is grounding. Hope that helps. Best wishes. 🙂
Well said Psychic Oracle 😀
I thought along the same lines yesterday when I re-read this post. He was doing great until he gave the healing to your daughter.
He has been attuned about 8 weeks now and said his life was wonderful but this change only happened after he gave my daughtere a treatment on Sunday evening, not immediately afterwards but within a few days
I'd definitely push the emotional healing too. ( I did mention it in post 8 earlier)
Thinking of you x
Hi all, just to update, my client arrived and we both felt that reversing the attunement was the proper thing to do, Paul thank you for clarifying this for me in your post, while my only wish was for him to be the priority here it was his right to have as he felt guided to.Prior to this we discussed more healing etc but in the end De-attuning was the right thing to do and I merely took out the symbols in the order of the initiation.He felt a little sad and disappointed with himself but he symptoms were improving within a few hours and he is in a much better place, he may have the initiation again at a later date who knows,Im glad I have learned something here and following your own intuition and putting your client first is the proper way to go.
Well done Star, I am sure that you will continue to help him and he will feel more secure with you now. 🙂
Thanks Paul, he has just informed that he has bought a one way ticket to China so I wish him the best, each day brings its own surprises 🙂 and events
You sure know how to treat the boys. :D:rollaugh:
:D:D, I know, its a bit far allright to get away from me:D, Im a powerful woman.
Glad you got sorted and hope everything settles well for the client.
I must say reading through some of the replies and this thing called kundalini has rather disturbed me a bit.
😮