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(@parkinson)
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

I do not believe you can change what has already happened, but I surpose if your intention was to not be part of a reiki system any longer then it would be possible to sever ties with that system. I do not think it would have to be done as an exercise or ritual but purely on intent. Probably the de-attunemnet process exists for those who need the act of disconnection to help with their intent on the matter.


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 5:38 am
(@sacredstar)
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

This is turning into an interesting thread

I agree with Jonjo I do not feel that we can turn the clock block and change the past even with intent.

blessings

Kim xx


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 9:40 am
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

Suppose you choose to accept an attunement, but didn't like the energies, can YOU the recipient, of that attunement/empowerment then reject and "send back" that attunement/empowerment? I hope this makes sense.

Jonjo

when I receive an attunement I state that I accept it without personal and opertunistic negative energy attatchments and that the attunement be transmitted in its purest form

you can ask spirit to de attune you to the energy attunement from that master and cut all cords of att form them if you so wish

i hope this makes sense

lala
dez


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 9:49 am
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

I agree with Jonjo I do not feel that we can turn the clock block and change the past even with intent.

blessings

Kim xx

Kim
You of all people should know that time is just linear and it is a reference term we use here on the earth plain

spirit is not confined to time as they operate in a different dimention.

energetically we can indeed change the so called " past attunement"

we cant change an event perse but we can clear up the energy mess and every attatchment that it has/had on our energy body.

if someone would like me to de attune them please let me know and i will re attune you again if you wish

any takers
lala
dez


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 9:53 am
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

Parkinson my answers in caps below
lala dez

I do not believe you can change what has already happened,

NO WE CANNOT BUT ENERGETICALLY WE CAN

but I surpose if your intention was to not be part of a reiki system any longer then it would be possible to sever ties with that system.

I AGREE

I do not think it would have to be done as an exercise or ritual but purely on intent. Probably the de-attunemnet process exists for those who need the act of disconnection to help with their intent on the matter.

INTENT AND SPIRIT


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 9:56 am
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Hi Kim

Turning the clock back is not required as what has been has been but you can alter the present and the future we do it all the time in energy work, think about it 😉

Hi Jonjo

Yes you are in control when it come to what you want in yourself it is called free will and it is one of the paramount rules of energy work not to override someone else's free will, however you would still need to be in a position to realise this and then understand how to put it into action.

Hi Parkinson

You can bring into BEing whatever you need to work with in energy work, that is what makes it so flexible as long as you are prepared to move on and stretch your concepts then the energy responds, as soon as you say that cannot be then it simply will not exist in your reality so will not work for you, the choices are up to each individual 🙂


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 10:08 am
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

Dear Paul

Still not convinced was just reminded that 'one can heal memory but not erase it' in this context it is the evidence of our experience. We carry memory throughout eternity.

But am open to change

blessings and love to you

Kim xx


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 11:06 am
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

Still not convinced was just reminded that 'one can heal memory but not erase it' in this context it is the evidence of our experience. We carry memory throughout eternity.

I agree

we do not erase memory we just heal the negative effects it has had on our energy bodies

lala
dez


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 11:17 am
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

we cant change an event perse but we can clear up the energy mess and every attatchment that it has/had on our energy body.

Dez
If the above quote stands 'as is' then how can someone retract a given attunement? I accept and have no problem with the rules that state before you take your first attunement (as in TM) that to switch system would render further attunements impossible, but to negate the one already given? That is what I can't get my head round.

Paul C
Thanks for your comment

one of the paramount rules of energy work not to override someone else's free will, however you would still need to be in a position to realise this and then understand how to put it into action

I totally agree with your comments about free will and not over-riding it, which brings me back full circle to the issue of... once given does the teacher have the RIGHT to withdraw the given attunement? To refuse further attunements due to a broken agreement is understandable, but to actually presume to withdraw a given attunement........??????

Sacredstar,
As I see it you don't erase the memory by healing it, but you have the opportunity to change your future by healing your past and breaking the cyclic patterns that may - up to that point - have had a negative influence in your life?

jonjo


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 1:03 pm
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

quote:

we cant change an event perse but we can clear up the energy mess and every attatchment that it has/had on our energy body.

Dez
If the above quote stands 'as is' then how can someone retract a given attunement? I accept and have no problem with the rules that state before you take your first attunement (as in TM) that to switch system would render further attunements impossible, but to negate the one already given? That is what I can't get my head round.

we cant change the fact that an event has happened but as i have said we can change the energetic effect of the event on us


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 1:37 pm
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Hi Kim

It is a bit like the electric board coming and disconnecting your home from the electricity supply, you could switch on a light or the TV or comp or not bother before but now you can't although the sockets and wiring are still there you cannot draw the energy through them for that you would have to get reconnected to the source.

Hi Jonjo

You can lay stipulations with your intent when giving the attunement, although I think it would be more of a loan in that case, you can also specify how long an attunement will last and make it a temporary connection if you desire which is what some people do when they are healing give a temporary attunement until it is no longer needed to sort something or other out.

Please do not forget the other side of the coin as a receiver of an attunement you can use your intention to make specifications on what you are going to receive outside of the givers intent for what they want to send you, unfortunately this sort of thing is conveniently missed out of the traditional controlled systems manuals but it is up to you to put yourself firmly into the driving seat and go where you want to go not where someone else points you.


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 2:25 pm
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

it is up to you to put yourself firmly into the driving seat and go where you want to go not where someone else points you.

WHO IS DRIVING YOUR BUS !!


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 2:32 pm
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Quite so Dez!

Jonjo yes I feel that we heal the effects of the experience rather then the experience itself for it is our thought led emotions that created the blockage in the first place.

Paul I feel that one is never disconnected from spirit.

being love

Kim xx


 
Posted : 19/10/2003 5:00 pm
 Paul
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

Paul I feel that one is never disconnected from spirit.

That's the way I feel, too, Kim.


 
Posted : 20/10/2003 7:45 am
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RE: Attunements and Re attunements

Hi Kim & Paul

Yes I agree that you cannot be fully disconnected from the Spirit simply because our truer higher selves are a part of it, so even removing all the energy connections you have collected over the years would not disconnect you fully from your higher selves but you would not be able to channel the energy the same as you can now with the connection, you would still keep the natural abilities you where born with as these are natural to you.

Also please consider the point of intention! the intention we use in the energy will only work if there is the energy to back up and enforce our intentions, without that our intentions are just empty thoughts and wishful thinking 🙂


 
Posted : 20/10/2003 8:39 am
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