RE: Heavenly dance
This is the Hinduism sub-forum. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva (Creation, Preservation, Destruction) are foundational to Hinduism - among the basics. I wouldn't expect to debate that on the Hinduism sub-forum itself.
Things come and go, in the physical world that is. In Hinduism even the Universe itself has cycles (pralayas) of appearing (being born), existing, and then disappearing into a mysterious nothingness (physically).
It's really very simple. A part of Shiva's symbolism is the 'disappearance' stage. Matter/energy is taken away from objects, even human bodies, so that there can be a renewal in the new Creation.
I don't think you've understood, as I already tried to say, that it's not 'destruction' in a negative sense - it's change. For example, tree eventually dies but becomes compost for renewal. The human negative aspect of the ego 'dies' and who would not want that? Shiva represents all of this.
V xxx
RE: Heavenly dance
Dear cub and everyone
Although not born a Hindu this time around, I have absorbed many of the beliefs and traditions of Hinduism during my time in India and I wanted to put this point of view: I have always been taught that Siva Nataraj (Shiva Lord of the Dance) is keeping the cosmos in motion with his dance. That if he stops, so will life, the universe and everything. This is certainly the way Nataraj is seen in Tamil Nadu. And as Lord Shiva dances he tramples underfoot the dwarf of ignorance (ego).
Om namah Sivaya.
Much love
Sunanda xxx
RE: Heavenly dance
ORIGINAL: venetian
This is the Hinduism sub-forum. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva (Creation, Preservation, Destruction) are foundational to Hinduism - among the basics. I wouldn't expect to debate that on the Hinduism sub-forum itself.
V xxx
I appreciate that David but my fundamental question is this 'Is everything cast in stone? CF'S say exactly the same as you when one questions the viability of their doctrines of sin, hell and damnation and the basics as they view it that one can only be saved by Jesus Christ.
Do peoples understandings, perceptions and consciousness not change and in doing so their whole view of scripture being seen with new eyes?
The rug is certainly being pulled from under the feet of Christianity and Judiasm by their own are there any signs of this in Hinduism?
Many thanks for your contributions to these questions, I promise you they are sincere.
There was a time when you accused me of not questioning anything yet I question everything and always have.
Dear Sunanda
Thank you for your sharing that is the way I understood it too but you express it much better than I.
Love beyond measure
Kim xx
RE: Heavenly dance
ORIGINAL: Sacredstar
The rug is certainly being pulled from under the feet of Christianity and Judiasm by their own are there any signs of this in Hinduism?
An interesting question. Over the last 100 years I'd say it's been the other way around. "Hinduism" didn't exist as a discrete religion until, well - 150 years ago. It's a word the nglish applied to almost all beliefs and practices they found in India. 150 years ago, Indians didn't use the word or think of themselves as Hindu. They were a large varietyof things Shaivites, yogis, worshippers of Krishna. To present a united front they adapted the term "Hindu" for themselves only in the late 1800s. So in a way it's in reverse - "Hinduism" in a sense is very new, not old and changing through age.
It's actually not one religion unlike the others, but many,so one can't make sweeping statements that it's changing this way or that.
Venetian xxx
RE: Heavenly dance
ORIGINAL: venetian
So in a way it's in reverse - "Hinduism" in a sense is very new, not old and changing through age. It's actually not one religion unlike the others, but many, so one can't make sweeping statements that it's changing this way or that.
Venetian xxx
Thank you. So how and what could one align it with? Do you think it is more appropriate to the future and if there is a religion at all be it one of 'personal experience' or just 'experience' itself? Individuals being totally true to self and not an 'authority' type organisation like the old religions.
being love
Kim xx