Hi Scommstech
Personally I do not perceive anything emotional about the oneness in which I perceive we are all one, it just is what it is, wholeness.
Love is an emotion and like any other emotion, it requires a physical body that is capable of creating the right physiological response for us to be able to perceive it.
I know from personal experience as well as from the experience of healing countless people, that when we remove the judgmental attachments that where created surrounding something that happened in the past, then the only feeling that is left is absolutely nothing.
Why it should astound people I don't know, but they always seem astounded that they can think and talk about about something quite openly that was unmentionable before the healing set them free and feel absolutely nothing!
Sorry Paul
I tried to select a portion of your post to reply to and it appears that I just resent the whole thing. Sorry.
What I was going to say was that yes what you describe as removing probable-some attachments that hang on from the past is gaining a wider understanding in some circles.
However the issue of love if accepted in the conventional understanding has been challenged in that it should really be seen as the "invisible " bonding of and between "souls", for want of a better description. The Quantum people talk of a Zero Point Field that encompasses all. This to some is the "true love". Not an actual emotion but a genuine force. Some say that we are actually a part of the force. It is the source of our true identity. That which was a part of Creation.
Hi Scommstech
Sorry Paul
I tried to select a portion of your post to reply to and it appears that I just resent the whole thing. Sorry.
What I was going to say was that yes what you describe as removing probable-some attachments that hang on from the past is gaining a wider understanding in some circles.
I personally do not perceive any attachments to the past within self or anyone else, I only perceive what we are creating for self right now, I do see judgments that were created in the past and are still creating divisional conflicts within people, but they are not past divisional conflicts, they are current conflicts that are creating pain and suffering in the Now or current moment.
However the issue of love if accepted in the conventional understanding has been challenged in that it should really be seen as the "invisible " bonding of and between "souls", for want of a better description. The Quantum people talk of a Zero Point Field that encompasses all. This to some is the "true love". Not an actual emotion but a genuine force. Some say that we are actually a part of the force. It is the source of our true identity. That which was a part of Creation.
People perceive things in different ways, when I encountered the oneness of consciousness and attempted to relate it to my physicality, then I can only describe what I experienced as a void in relation to my ability to sense the world around me through my physical senses, but I then realised that consciousness is not physical in nature.
Our consciousness is our creative power, we are all manipulating the world around us all of the time to create different things to experience. Beyond what we perceive as self within our physicality and our thinking mind, I perceive that everything is one within consciousness, outside of our judgmental creations of separateness and the divisions that we create within and around us there is wholeness; wholeness is complete without any divisional judgments, which is why I interpreted my first encounter with the oneness of consciousness as a void experience.
Now they say that children are all aware of the oneness as they are closer to where they have come from and know how to function and experience in the Now, but what is termed as love, is something that I did not encounter in my life experience until I was in my teens.
In my life experience I have observed love being given in one moment and taken away in another moment, I have seen love used to emotionally blackmail others in diverse ways, I have seen that love is one of many attributes that we as human beings possess and have within our armory to use to enrich our life experiences through emotional judgments, I have not found love in the oneness of consciousness, only a sense of acceptance that we are all one within the oneness of consciousness.
The creative force is consciousness, there is thought and there is harmony and wholeness within the oneness of consciousness.
Paul, you are talking about the human emotion love, while I (and I'm pretty sure Scomm too) am talking about infinite divine Love, which the human emotion is a mere shadow of. Chalk and cheese.
Love and peace,
Judy
Hi Judy
Yes, I understand the concept of divine attributes and whilst I do not wish to derail a discussion on forgiveness, I do not understand is why the divine attribute of love is being singled out and put forward as the one that binds us all together! Rather than the other divine attributes of hate, war, peace, suffering, joy, lust, retribution, forgiveness etc?