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I was not aware, then I became aware. I can only be aware from my own awareness. If you want to call that "create", then yes, I created myself and everything in my awareness. I have no evidence to suggest otherwise.

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Yes Energylz-- That I do agree with. I wish you a greater awareness to come.
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I am not too comfortable with relying on the scriptures as I don't believe we can wholly guarantee their accuracy. I do believe Jesus was among us because of the evidence of a scientific occurrence, around year 0.
He was mortal, but had a very highly developed soul, that was directed by a higher energy, that we know as God. That energy is based on love, and I believe that that was the foundation of Jesus' message to us.


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This is the first time I've looked at this section and there is lots of reading which I haven't time to look through right now.

I consider myself a Christian although I do not go to church. I believe in God and when I pray I always pray to Him. The problem I have is.....is God and Jesus one being or two separate beings. I cannot get to grips with Jesus's death 'to save our souls' how did that help, what happened before his death. I realise some of you are very educated people but could you please explain in layman's terms.

Jesus is God. In John 10:30 Jesus says "I and the Father are One." Now, if he meant one in spirit, the following verse makes no sense. In the following verse or verses, the people try to stone Jesus for blasphemy, so obviously Jesus was making a claim to be God. John 1:1 and the following verses are another passage where Jesus claims to be God. In Titus 2:13 the author claims Jesus is God. There are many other verses. Jesus was both God and man at the same time. There is one God, in three persons, Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit.

We are all sinners, as sin came into the world with Adam and biting out of the apple in the Garden of Eden. In the Old Testament, people offered animals sacrifices as payment for their sins. The penalty for sin is death (Romans 3:23), so it took a perfect lamb, Jesus Christ, to pay the price for all of mankind's sins on the cross. All we must do is repent from our sins and believe in His death on the cross and resurrection, and we are saved. We cannot be good enough to work our way to heaven..it is only through God's grace that we can be saved.


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I am not too comfortable with relying on the scriptures as I don't believe we can wholly guarantee their accuracy. I do believe Jesus was among us because of the evidence of a scientific occurrence, around year 0.

Or maybe that was year 1. There was no year 0.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_zero

In fact it's mainly because of religious beliefs that zero was not accepted as a number for many centuries. Zero also implied inifinity and the church would not accept the infinite as that would mean that the church was not the centre of things. (That's a very brief summary, if you want to know more, I would suggest reading [url]"Zero, Biography of a dangerous number"[/url])

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We are all sinners, as sin came into the world with Adam and biting out of the apple in the Garden of Eden. In the Old Testament, people offered animals sacrifices as payment for their sins. The penalty for sin is death (Romans 3:23), so it took a perfect lamb, Jesus Christ, to pay the price for all of mankind's sins on the cross. All we must do is repent from our sins and believe in His death on the cross and resurrection, and we are saved. We cannot be good enough to work our way to heaven..it is only through God's grace that we can be saved.

This concept has never made sense to me.
Who has the right to judge us and say that we are all sinners. Have I done something wrong? Have you done something wrong? If you want to go around believing you have sinned all your life then you go for it, but please don't presume to push such a belief on other people, for that would be your own judgement of others.

Who says that the penalty for sin is death? And what is a sin anyway? If I think about a naked lady in a lustful way is that a sin? Should I then be put to death for it? It is these fundamentalist literal concepts that are very likely the cause of religious wars and religious fundamentalism, leading to killing, in the modern world and throughout history.

If Jesus Christ payed the price for all of mankinds sin on the cross, then why do we also have to repent from our sins? Are you saying that he was a martyr and we all have to be thankful for that otherwise we're still sinners?

This all sounds to me like the bible writings taken to literally out of context and without the wise teachings they give us. This type of interpretation is not loving, it's judgemental and that isn't love. This type of interpretation is hateful and blameful. If God is all love then why would such judgement, hate and blame be given. I cannot accept this interpretation as truthful as it does not stand true to me, through my own testing of truthfulness.

I do hope you find you are able to become free of your feelings of being sinful and you find peace. I for one, will not be taking that negative attitude towards myself or others, so I apologise if you find my words are not to your liking.

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