RE: A spiritual view of Genesis for Songstress
Genesis 2:6:
But.......
To recap: All is good. All is perfect. The universe is spiritual, made of light, reflection and spiritual ideas and their identities, the highest being the "sons and daughters of God." Man, made in the image and likeness of God has been blessed. God looked upon His creation and noted that it was "very good". All is finished, not needing any cultivation or improvement. All is complete.
BUT..........
How often do we find ourselves not accepting the good that is at hand and saying "I know such and such is wonderful BUT......!" or "Im grateful for this BUT....." How often do we destroy the positive with that horrible little negative word?
So here is the beginning of the BUT - the denial of the truth in the first chapter of Genesis - its very counterfeit.
So how was that BUT brought into being?
Genesis 2:6:
But there went up a mist from the earth, .....
MIST: Anything that dims, darkens, intercepts or obscures vision. Webster.
Genesis 2:6:
But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
So here, in the BUT, after the perfect vision has been obscured, the earth is considered barren and dry - it needs rain before the plants can grow. Lack and incompleteness are creeping into the story.......
Do you remember what the production of the idea of vegetation was like in the first chapter?
Genesis 1:11 & 12:
And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
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Day 9
Genesis 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Compare that with:
Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
The following translation is from the Icelandic:--
And God said, Let us make man after our mind and our likeness; and God shaped man after His mind; after God's mind shaped He him; and He shaped them male and female.(S&H 525)
Have you noticed the first difference here? God is now the Lord God.
LORD GOD. Jehovah.
This double term is not used in the first chapter of Genesis, the record of spiritual creation. It is introduced in the second and following chapters, when the spiritual sense of God and of infinity is disappearing from the recorder's thought,--when the true scientific statements of the Scriptures become clouded through a physical sense of God as finite and corporeal. From this follow idolatry and mythology,--belief in many gods, or material intelligences, as the opposite of the one Spirit, or intelligence, named Elohim, or God. (Science and Health 591)
Is Spirit, God, injected into dust, and eventually ejected at the demand of matter? Does Spirit enter dust, and lose therein the divine nature and omnipotence? Does Mind, God, enter matter to become there a mortal sinner, animated by the breath of God?(S&H 524)
Theres a little poem that I cant remember the words of, just these two lines youll be seeing them often!
"Tell me which man you believe is you.
Genesis 1 or Genesis 2?"
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Day 10
Genesis 2: 8
And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Here the sense of separation is introduced. The one-ness of God and HisHer reflection, of the divine Mind and its idea is now denied. Man is no longer one with God, Spirit, he is PUT somewhere else!
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RE: A spiritual view of Genesis for Songstress
Quoting you Judy:
">>Many people say (and Ive certainly read it often on HP) "You have to have evil in order to know good" or "You have to have both positivity AND negativity." "
Yes, one often come across that. An old and deep error IMO. There is no "need" to know evil. You have to know evil only in order to know and to have evil IMO. It goes along with the idea that good and evil are equal opposites in the universe, which is irrational IMO. For these are moral qualities, and of course there can be far, far more of Love than of hatred, for example.
Regarding the one God, not the plural God, I don't read Hebrew, the original language of Genesis - or perhaps NOT the original, but the one in which our civilisation received it. However, I believe I have read and been told that "Elohim" in literal translation means "the divine us" i.e. that IT is a plural term for plural Gods. More to the point, I believe I have read and been told that in the English (e.g. King James) Bibles, it is the term "LORD God" that is the translation - a very poor one - into English, of "Elohim". That is, that every time in the Hebrew it is written "Elohim" or "the divine us", in our English Bible we have it as "LORD God".
Venetian
RE: A spiritual view of Genesis for Songstress
Der Judy
IMHO the bible was tampered with throughout in the beginning and afterwards, translations were also carried out from a particular male perspective and the retranslation of the Lords Prayer is a perfect example of how far off the actual bible is, my dream would be for it to be completely retranslated again.
We have discussed this before and agreed to disagree if my memory serves me well. I prefer to stick with the pure untampered texts that were discovered in the last century.
The Gospel of Thomas, The Gospel of Mary, the Essene Gospels, the Dead Sea Scrolls etc
Dear Venetian
Interesting, yes I agree.
being love
kim xx
RE: A spiritual view of Genesis for Songstress
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Do you know, you are the FIRST person ever to have said on HP we dont need to know evil in order to know good, sadness in order to know joy etc.
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU !!!
As to Elohim. Im writing this at home, not in the Reading Room where I have all the Bible references and dictionaries etc. This is Mary Baker Eddy in the chapter on Genesis (as she says, it was what scholars understood then 1875) If its any different Ill let you know.
It may be worth while here to remark that, according to the best scholars, there are clear evidences of two distinct documents in the early part of the book of Genesis. One is called the Elohistic, because the Supreme Being is therein called Elohim. The other document is called the Jehovistic, because Deity therein is always called Jehovah,--or Lord God, as our common version translates it.
Throughout the first chapter of Genesis and in three verses of the second,--in what we understand to be the spiritually scientific account of creation,--it is Elohim (God) who creates. From the fourth verse of chapter two to chapter five, the creator is called Jehovah, or the Lord. The different accounts become more and more closely intertwined to the end of chapter twelve, after which the distinction is not definitely traceable. In the historic parts of the Old Testament, it is usually Jehovah, peculiarly the divine sovereign of the Hebrew people, who is referred to.
The idolatry which followed this material mythology is seen in the Phoenician worship of Baal, in the Moabitish god Chemosh, in the Moloch of the Amorites, in the Hindoo Vishnu, in the Greek Aphrodite, and in a thousand other so-called deities.
It was also found among the Israelites, who constantly went after "strange gods." They called the Supreme Being by the national name of Jehovah. In that name of Jehovah, the true idea of God seems almost lost. God becomes "a man of war," a tribal god to be worshipped, rather than Love, the divine Principle to be lived and loved. (Science and Health 523)
The eternal Elohim includes the forever universe. The name Elohim is in the plural, but this plurality of Spirit does not imply more than one God, nor does it imply three persons in one. It relates to the oneness, the tri-unity of Life, Truth, and Love. "Let them have dominion."(S&H 515)
Love and peace,
Judy
RE: A spiritual view of Genesis for Songstress
Dear Judy
I knew with all this Ascension I have become invisible at times and to certain people Judy but I have been saying this to you since HP began in 2000 perhaps you just did not register it or see it ! I am sure Brother Bob, Vortex and others have also said it over the years.
"we dont need to know evil in order to know good, sadness in order to know joy etc"
In fact in my domain it does not exist at all!
beinglove
Kim xx