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Going back a post or two, that link still works for me, can you try again? It goes to a page with a video about an Italian woman who got abducted and had implants and doctors even removed a hybrid embryo from her womb 😮

Oh, yes! I maybe missed the video as it wasn't top of page.

Righto ...

On the face of it, to a skeptic this is going to be just too "far out". Rather than have just this video, I wonder what deeper investigation and detail is available...?

But if validated it's amazingly important: alien substance on the outside of her body, implants still in her brain, photos and video of the craft (but poor), and a photo of a being (clear but again a photo provides little evidence). What is evidence, and will include DNA, if this is no hoax, is ... the abortion upon her and the 'product' being a human-alien hybrid (which is what abductions seem to be about, or usually anyway). The hybrid is great evidence if real. I've not got time to look more into this now.

A person new to the subject might not know that this is just one of thousands of such accounts from all over the world. Usually the aliens harvest the hybrid before humans do, of course. It's usually very traumatic. It may have been going on through all of human history, but people were afraid and embarrassed to talk about such events. They first came to light with the 1961 case of Betty and Barney Hill, who recounted an abduction under hynosis. So abductions for genetic-harvesting reasons go back at least 49 years.

This Italian case may be genuine and simply a case providing better hard evidence. Need to know more.

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UFOs Ignore No-Fly Rule During Ash Cloud Over London?

Meanwhile:

http://www.realufos.net/2010/04/ufos-in-sky-over-london-during-volcanic.html

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David the Phoenix stuff is incredibly fascinating! Can't believe I don't remember it happening.

The volcanic ash vid is just too bad quality to comment on TBH 🙁

Hopefully with cameras getting higher resolution soon we will have some seriously good footage to discuss, which will provide better evidence.


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David the Phoenix stuff is incredibly fascinating! Can't believe I don't remember it happening.

I'm not sure it was reported much at the time outside of Arizona.

This seems to be the best footage from March 13, 1997:

It's from outside Phoenix, at an elevation seemingly at the same height as the lights, roughly. It has to be remembered that there's more footage by others from other angles. At the opening of this clip we seem to see mountains behind the lights, so they were well below the horizon here, low over Phoenix. Note the light to the left: assuming that to be part of the overall curve of a craft, it's huge!

Comments below include some from those who were just children at the time. It's hard to know how many saw this and left no written report - why should they? But viewers are estimated to have been a large % of the city's population.

Again, though videos only show lights, so skeptics could talk of "flares" etc., those who were there and underneath it say it was a full object which "blacked out the stars". Moreover, there were multiple objects elsewhere moving in multiple directions as investigators found. This video is only one.

The governor's debunking is interesting, that I posted about yesterday. He talks openly now about why he did it. I stongly disagree with his crude action and consider it despicable, but nevertheless it gives some insight into why some events are debunked. Note that he made the decision on his own initiative: there wasn't any White House or military "higher up" ordering him what to do. He seems honest about this today. People in such positions - and this will include major media outlets such as the BBC and newspapers - usually don't know how to handle such reports. When arguably they should be front-line news, they are debunked or censored as news purely on the initiative of individuals. In other words, there's often no need to theorise about a huge, overall 'conspiracy' of silence. (The military of many nations have broken silence and admitted to UFO incidents.)

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I would like to hear the official explanation of this:

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90782/90872/7058628.html


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