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Venetian
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****e, Venetian, you've spooked me out.

I don't know what the first word is, and no need to tell me! Fadette, you stop getting spooked, really, when you realise it's all been going on for many decades at the very least, but probably for as long as humanity has itself existed. So life as we know it goes on, and no need to be spooked. 😮 UFOs are most unlikely to intrude into your world (life). 😮 I've seen at least one, as a child, and it was also clearly observing me 😮 - but nothing else came of it.

so now your post about UFO doing stuff with pregnant women etc...and landing or crashing repeatedly...is frankly overwhelming!

Crashes are rare. What's a bit more controversial is encounters - still rare - when people are hurt or killed. From the top of my head without looking it up, I can cite if I have the facts right, jets scrambled from East Anglia, England, in the 1950s, to investigate a UFO sighted on radar and then visually by the lead pilot. Captain Mantell. His last words over the radio were that he saw it, he was amazed, it was huge and he was closing, then the radar signature for his plane and the UFO merged, and he was never seen again, nor his plane. (I don't know if in recent decades there has been any more insight into that.)

I realised a bit belatedly that the female-pregnancy aspect might upset people reading it or make unstable people a bit paranoid. But if one gets deeply into the subject, and reads what the many abductee stories are really all about, this is frankly what people report. It first came to light with a famous case in 1961, with Betty and Barney Hill. Since then, many hundreds of cases have come to light. Hundreds of reports from all nations and all classes of people report that abductions are often concerned, in some way, with fertilisation. Not always though.

But for the average reader who might wander here, I think it's important to point out that in normal human experience this is still all rare. It doesn't mean that a miscarriage by anyone has a UFO connection! (I write that aware that people come to HP not in the best or most rational frame of mind.)

WHAT is your feeling deep down on this topic? are you worried? are you excited?

That's a great question. What's frustrating about Ufology is that we seem to have little or no power to investigate or to change what's happening. One feels powerless. Since there's no influence we can have on the phenomena, that's why over time I lost a lot of interest. But your question is something we can address in the here and now.

I'm not in the least bit worried, no. As said, they seem to have been around for as long as humanity has been around. So whatever we consider "normal" life to be, will just carry on. There's nothing dramatic going to happen. Their behaviour doesn't much change over decades. No worries.

Excited? Not quite, for the same reasons as above. But actually leaps forward in our understanding of UFOs do occur and these leaps do excite me, yes. The book on UFOs in the Vedas was a big leap forward IMHO (see a post above). Videos, while proving nothing, and as has been pointed out could sometimes be fake, are very interesting too. Mostly, there's such overwhelming evidence that the military of the USA and other nations know things --- and may have crashed saucers --- that the evidence may already all be there, but kept from us. That is exciting, but we are denied access.

Even Presidents have seen UFOs. Maybe one day one of them will go to the core and bring it all out into the public domain. But since it hasn't happened yet, one suspects that there are "powers" in the military who are permanently there, in their careers, and keep things even from politicians who come and go. In other words, PMs and Presidents might not be told all that there is to know. (Though when asked about UFOs, Margaret Thatcher, thinking she was talking at a private party, said: "You can't tell the people!" This became the very title of a book.)

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So the fact that we humans are still alive proves that aliens have not PHYSICALLY interacted with us.

We humans can't catch bugs from other species just like that. It is rare when we even catch something from a species on Earth (with a few notable examples of course, mostly from animals we are close to, genetically speaking) so if there were some ET beings, they would certainly be 'made' very differently from us (maybe not even carbon based!) and VERY very very unlikely to catch anything from us or give us anything either.


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Sorry if my 'Is it real?' question seemed flippant. I was just stunned by what I saw... assuming that it is real.

Thanks for the book recommendation, Venetian. It is a fascinating subject, although I confess I don't often go in search of it, but become tranfixed when I hear someone talk about it on the radio or I see something on tv. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who believe in UFOs, it's not crackers at all.

I remember hearing about the Rendelsham incident on the radio a few years ago, it's really interesting. My memory is really sketchy... was there some tape or other recorded of the pilots at the time, or am I making that up?

I haven't seen a UFO, but my nan quite a few years ago shocked the whole family by claiming she'd seen one. She described it as being square with 'four legs'. She also said that at the same time an old clock that had belonged to her mother suddenly started working again after years of it not working. I was pretty young at the time and I seem to remember the family having a typically British reaction to it by having a laugh about it and ribbing her quite a bit. She's not the sort of woman to come out with statements like this and hasn't said anything like it since, so I believed her.

I'd looooove to see a UFO. But I don't fancy being abducted.

Did you ever see the Steven Speilberg 10 part TV series, 'Taken'? It was 'fiction', although, Venetian, your view about the aliens' motives being breeding experiments reminded me of that programme. If you haven't seen it, you should try to get hold of it on DVD/download.


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Fadette
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O Venetian, dont worry about me, last night I didnt take an overdose of valium to help me cope with the news. 🙂
My first word was the english equivalent of the most used French swear word, ahah!
and I was entirely respectful to you, I want to add, it is difficult to tell the difference on the internet between people being sarcastic or cynical (with a bit of contempt) or simply trying to be funny and silly.

However I must admit I am a bit of a chicken. I am the first to watch a tv documentary about strange phenomenas (often 90% of it is fake) or of pure scienctific revelations...and guess what, I spend 1 hour in bed not finding sleep and seeing shapes around the walls (:) ) or trying to re-understand the world as it is, for example last night it was: if black holes are "alive" and all over the place, sucking objects 20 times bigger than the earth into them, deforming them in the process like they're chewing gum, and if "space" is "dark matter" ie very full and another vibration exactly like sound or wood or skin, then where do we stand and are we inverted energies, negative space, and am I just this room's air's next organ...? not sure I made any sense, apologies. anyway, i fell asleep thinking that prehistoric, medieval and later magic belief systems might well have understodd something.

sorry, going OFF topic again!!

now Venetian tell me you re not a believer of that David something writer who accuses all world leaders inc. the Queen and Tony Blair to be lizards!!
although I could believe they share an amount of hardiness and something strange, this theory IMO is very disappointing, out of all the things aliens could be, someone had to come with the ridiculous idea that they look like existing animals on our planet, and surprise: the species that we find odd and dangerous (could have been sharks too but they need water 🙂 ).


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Venetian
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now Venetian tell me you re not a believer of that David something writer who accuses all world leaders inc. the Queen and Tony Blair to be lizards!!

That's David Icke, for a brief period the professional goalkeeper for my hometown football team! No, I don't believe that and find it ridiculous, though Icke has a fair bit of truth at times (not that bit) mixed in with his fantasy. He's just too free with fantasy for me, on the subject of global conspiracy theories. That's a topic that simply must be tackled with careful and academic rigour. Because there are provable conspiracies, but if you start getting facts wrong, or mixed with fantasy as he does, serious people won't take you too seriously.

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