I've just come across a fascinating bit of footage that was taken recently on a mobile phone (when is someone going to be in the right place at the right time with an HD camcorder!) in the USA.
http://www.youtube.com/user/eeasynow#p/u/1/ehxixQxVxg8
It shows a solid object floating in the sky with 3 orbs flying around it. After a while it accelerates at an incredible speed up and away. They have provided indepth processing on the video to show it in better detail which is IMO amazing.
What do you make of it?
I'm surprised nobody commented on this at the time? I recommend viewing it by blowing the Youtube image up to full screen size.
It's truly "fascinating" to see, but as usual adds nothing to our knowledge (which isn't a criticism - it's just where ufology has been locked for so many years, alas). I only saw it "disappear" at first, the first view. Often when UFOs seem to disappear, they're probably moving at unbelievable speeds. I was watching the third outside object, and it seems to shoot up before the main body. The first two appear to merge with it, upon which it becomes more squat, changing shape.
This is also typical of many UFOs: it's no good thinking of nuts-and-bolts. They appear to be able to shape-shift, or divide into a number of objects, then merge again.
The footage would be much more important with a story behind it. Who took it, etc?
V
Venetian mentioned about UFOs shapeshifting, splitting and recombining, etc, as evidence that they are not "nuts and bolts" material machines as we understand them.
I agree, and I'm sure that UFOs are a kind of holographic-type projection, and that contactee experiences probably happen mostly "in the head" (which DOESN'T mean they're unreal, just a different kind of reality).
My reasoning is this- if aliens physically interacted with us, they would communicate their bacteria and viruses to us, to which we would have no immunity. This would mean mass extinction of the human species.
This is exactly what happened to the Native Americans when white people first arrived. Up to 90% of Native Americans died from diseases to which the white people were immune. Through trade goods passed from hand to hand, white diseases advanced hundreds of miles ahead of actual white people. Result was that the advancing whites often found the land empty and ready for settlement- they simply took over the fields which the Indians had left. In fact disease epidemics have had a huge effect on history but have been ignored by most historians until recently.
Even if the pilgrim fathers etc had all been non-racist, empathic, peaceful, respectful of native culture, etc etc, the Native Americans would still have died!
So the fact that we humans are still alive proves that aliens have not PHYSICALLY interacted with us.
Someone asked "why don't they tell us what they want?" Someone else suggested they might "help" us. I personally hope that any advanced alien race would have something like the "Prime Directive" in Star Trek- an absolute ban on interfering with other cultures, no matter how offensive they may sometimes seem. In fact they would probably know how to make themselves invisible to us, if they were so advanced.
Personally though I doubt if they come from other planets. Anyone interested in UFOs should read W.Y.Evans-Wentz "The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries", published 1911, and you will soon see that the "fairies" and the aliens are one and the same. They have probably always been here.
An interesting post. To re-state my interest, I was intensely interested in UFOs after seeing one aged nine, but for obvious and practical reasons my interest as an activist waned from about 21 on, since there's relatively little we can do on the subject. Recent video clips are interesting but almost a kind of entertainment if we can only watch them and not act.
My reasoning is this- if aliens physically interacted with us, they would communicate their bacteria and viruses to us, to which we would have no immunity. This would mean mass extinction of the human species.
I don't think we should project human values and experiences upon them? Their technology may be well-able to cope with this. They may not even have viruses and bacteria, and simply protect themselves from ours. So I suggest not projecting human experience upon totally alien species.
So the fact that we humans are still alive proves that aliens have not PHYSICALLY interacted with us.
Abductees return with injury, blood, pregnancy or supposed "miscarriages" (the foetus having been taken).
Then again, there are untold instances of physical interaction. Most UFO interactions are certainly physical - all the way from witnesses getting radiation burns, photos and videos, to a large number of the world's nations having scrambled protective fighter-planes when UFOs have been sighted visually, on radar, or both. By and large it's not a non-physical phenomenon. Even many NASA flights have had encounters (see previous posts).
Personally though I doubt if they come from other planets. Anyone interested in UFOs should read W.Y.Evans-Wentz "The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries", published 1911, and you will soon see that the "fairies" and the aliens are one and the same. They have probably always been here.
Yes, this took a long time for people (including myself) to swallow. In Ufology, John Keel, Aime Michel, and Jacques Vallee first went this route of thinking. I was most upset with them and, being young, didn't know what the heck they were going on about. :p But these three were the trio, arguably, of the heavyweight Ufologists of the time, who in the 1960s shaped the study of UFOs as it is today (along with Hynek). But I didn't get it at first.
To get out of the nuts-and-bolts from another planet scenario. Ancient Hindu Vedas are explicit in that there was close contact millenia ago with UFOs and their inhabitants, and that they came from other planets or worlds which were also not of our known physical dimension. In other words, if you go back to the 1960s, that's when the debate began: are UFOs from other planets, or from "other dimensions". According to some ancient Vedas, the answer is in fact both: other planets not in our known physical universe.
The shape-shifting is something I just see as advanced technology: that craft are malleable, not fixed in nature, in a way we can't quite understand as yet.
P.S. The key modern book on Indian contact with UFOs (said to be extensive) is to be found in Richard Thompson's book, "Alien Identities". From a review:
[COLOR="Blue"]"In the Vedic literature of India, there are many descriptions of flying machines that are generally called
vimanas. These fall into two categories: (1) manmade craft that resemble airplanes and fly with the aid of birdlike
wings, and (2) unstreamlined structures that fly in a mysterious manner and are generally not made by human beings.
The machines in category (1) are described mainly in medieval, secular Sanskrit works dealing with architecture,
automata, military siege engines, and other mechanical contrivances. Those in category (2) are described in ancient
works such as the Rg Veda, the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, and the Puranas, and they have many features
reminiscent of UFOs."
- Richard L. Thompson, Alien Identities - Ancient Insights into Modern UFO Phenomena
I very highly recommend that book.
V
fascinating reading. am just lost for words.