RE: global warming
using all the CFC`S and all the pollution that is spewed forth form man kind into the air and land is bound to have an effect though?
No I do not have nightmares over this, But I loke to make my own posotive contribution tot he planet.
Love
Dragon:)
RE: global warming
Hi HM,
just to back up your reference to the importance of Chaos Theory in all weather predictions.. Unless there is a quantum leap, literally in computational power, this means that it will never be possible to predict local, let alone global, weather changes. As for global warming, there are far too many political/chemo/industrial/green... fingers in the pie to ever get a clear picture of the true nature of the danger.
My cynisism tells me that we are in more danger from respiatory diseases and cancer due to car exhausts and other atmospheric polutants, than from any resulting ozone layer change.
Leo
RE: global warming
Hi there, Leo:
just to back up your reference to the importance of Chaos Theory in all weather predictions.. Unless there is a quantum leap, literally in computational power, this means that it will never be possible to predict local, let alone global, weather changes.
You are so right on the quantum leap in computing. And isn't it ironic that the concepts behind quantum computing (which is really nothing more than mastering non-linear infospaces) will likely provide that very quantum leap you speak of. And the primary focus elements of understanding Chaos Theory are the concept of a "closed feedback loop" and the non-linear power spectra (frequency-based) that it exhibits.
I once wrote a haiku that tried to describe an aspect of the non-linear phase space we live in:
Frequency is key.
Vibration, sound, light, and more
The Human Spectrum.
Incidentally, I believe that a deeper human understanding of the total frequency spectrum of physical experience is what will allow us to conquer the dimension of Time. (Now that we have mastered Mass and Space).
THM
RE: global warming
Hi all,
IMHO, I think that we are dumping mini and macro phenomena together into the same bag and thus loosing perspective.
At the top end of the climate change scale we have the mass extinctions, the meteor collisions that caused eons of darkness and death of the vast majority of species. Then we have the global climate changes, caused by, as said above, the reversal of the magnetic poles and the Sun's radiation. Then relatively short term (decade) small changes caused by volcanic eruptions, and now we have the ozone layer.
What is indisputable is that the polar holes ARE growing and that it is mankind's use of certain chemicals that is causing this. What is totally in question is the effect of this enlargement on our climate. Here we come up against our lack of computational power and fall prone to politics and propaganda. Whatever the effect, as against a falling meteor,, it will be gardual and we 'clever' humans will be able to adapt.
Leo
RE: global warming
I read yesterday the wonderful Dr. Bellamy has joined the debate and tells us that nothing we can do can really harm the planet as much as the natural occurences. He weighs in on the 'don't listen to horror stories' side, and I personally follow his judgement.
Love Gillyxxx