RE: global warming
I see that this subject has got "hotter" (sorry for pun) in the news suddenly.
From yesterday: CO2 in the atmosphere has in very recent years been rising much more than realised or expected. One scientist saying that they know the levels of CO2 one million years back (hmm, the very-much skeptic in me on 'experts' regarding knowing the past, but anyway...) he said it hasn't risen like this ever, so must be man-made. From research in Hawaii.
It may be that 'experts' are often so wrong or opinionated, that it was hard to believe them on global warming, when they were right?
Venetian
RE: global warming
Hi David,
Research in Hawaii? Hmm. I do suppose the scientist involved ruled out the CO2 gas that emanates from the many volcanoes on Hawaii before he came to his conclusion?
How can anyone know what the CO2 levels were 1 ma ago? No human was around then! The Earth has been a lot hotter and denser. You know what? I heard on telly last night that in ten years' time, there won't be enough water to go around...come on! All that is mismanagement, being blamed on global warming.
I am not burying my head in the sand, I really think that man MUST clean up his act or face the consequences, but I would really take some convincing that it is wholly man's fault that global warming has occurred at all.
Love,
Patsy.
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RE: global warming
Hi Patsy,
😉 Well it was on some TV news I glimpsed. Have seen no papers today. Hawaii since there are high and pollution-free places, same reason astronomical telescopes are there. And the records span a number of years. I would have to read this report, though, yes, to understand how they can now go back 2-3 years and say it is all higher CO2 than expected. Unless they meant just the latest readings over 18 months.
CO2 emissions from man (woman too...!) are increasing on the planet, not decreasing, given India and China developing also.
Huge problems in future if it does turn out to be man-made, as the poorer nations will continue to cut down rain forests (that may be the cause) and others will want to develop. The West would get blackmailed: "Pay us money not to do it."
As for the million years thing, I don't believe it since there have been mega-volcanoes and asteroid hits which had huge impact in that time. Presumably that kills rain forests. It's as I understand a balance: CO2 is "OK" so long as you have rain forests enough and plankton to soak it up.
Vxx
RE: global warming
Hi David,
Yes, that is the crux of the matter - rainforests being chopped down. That should stop - trees and plants are the lungs of the planet, and without them, we'd die. If one looks at the structure of a tree, it resembles a lung. David, man MUST sort things out about pollution, even if it isn't damaging the planet it will do sooner or later. Then non-man-made global warming will be exacerbated by man-made pollution.
Yes, money always comes into it. It is at the root of everything, especially where the so-called 'third world' is concerned. They are developing, but to me, I think it would be far better if we halted all this development and went back to our roots, back to understanding nature. I believe that our moving away from it is at the heart of all these envionmental problems, which we are experiencing. The killing of animals, over-fishing, abortions, wholesale destruction of forests, concrete jungles, etc. Perhaps we'd live shorter lives, but maybe that's not a bad thing.
Love,
Patsy.
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RE: global warming
Hi Patsy.
Economics rules, so the rain forest problem remains. We can sit here in our comfy seats and say how man must care for the planet, I know. But people in, say, Brazil, are either minor local moguls felling swathes of land, or peasants who never heard of planet-caring. A tough problem. They need to be given an alternative life, but South America doesn't even come under our provenance.
Btw, if we lived ideally as you suggest, surely we'd have longer lives?
V xxx