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Cirrus
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[Now I have to admit that I found this programme a little on the basic side and so my attention was waning at various points.:rolleyes:]

For me, of course Darwin himself did not kill the concept of God. As was stated in the programme, Darwin did not lose his faith due to his study, he lost it due to watching his 10 year old daughter suffering and dying of what is now thought to have been cholera.

So has Darwin’s theories killed God? IMO no, but it doesn’t stop later generations from extrapolating and manipulating his work to justify their own stance in whatever field they reside.

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Edit to add: enjoy your hols Judy. x


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Obviously evolution couldn't have been rejected by fundamentalists until it had been documented. But there has always been a thread of fundamental Christianity, as there are in other reglions.

I reckon "fact" is just a metaphor that we get stuck on. When someone gets stuck on "fact" someone else disagrees because they use their "fact" to justify their agenda.

So is truth just a trick people use to trap others with their memes?

And what were memes before facts existed?

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myarka
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I reckon "fact" is just a metaphor that we get stuck on. When someone gets stuck on "fact" someone else disagrees because they use their "fact" to justify their agenda.

So is truth just a trick people use to trap others with their memes?

And what were memes before facts existed?

Norbu

Sorry I don't want to go too far off topic.......

However ;),

There are very few global facts, only perceptions, opinions and theories. Sure facts should just remain at the personal level, i.e. I ate, I shaved, I've got blue eyes, etc...

Therefore society/culture survives and only finds its direction through memes and is therefore dynamic?

Myarka


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Venetian
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But there has always been a thread of fundamental Christianity, as there are in other reglions.

Yes, of course. But in Christianity it was not a mainstream movement with the political power or sheer numbers we now see in the USA and elsewhere. TV documentaries, having maybe just 50 minutes, simplify a bit, and so did my post, as I had even less than 50 minutes! 🙂

But the US fundy mid-West movement was startling at the time it began, and dates from more-or-less political events in the 1920s. This interests me, or rather the reverse does - that Christianity has basically never accepted things such as Genesis as literal, but rather as 'stories to make you think'. I'm interested, because obviously today's fundies are simply unaware of this, believing they're following some continuous line or 'religion' going right back 2,000 years. Effectively, this is not so.

[But try telling them that!:eek:]

V


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Yes, of course. But in Christianity it was not a mainstream movement with the political power or sheer numbers we now see in the USA and elsewhere.

I'm sorry V, but I must be being thick today...... Surely the puritans were a mainstream movement with political power? Or the puritan european city states like Geneva? Or Wilberforce? Weren't all these fundies?


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