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Is this Rumi or A Course in Miracles???

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From what I can see, it seems that only "a course in miracles" accredit that quote to Jesus:

Everywhere else accredits it to Rumi.

That correlates to my findings... Thank you for sharing. Let's see if any other budding detectives have any more info on the case 🙂


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Yes, some "chanelling" is just retrieving that which we already know in our unconscious mind. It could just be that whoever did the "chanelling" had heard the quote somewhere before and had it stored away in their unconscious just waiting to come out. 😉

Love and Reiki Hugs

We are indeed on the same page this morning 😮 Just what I was thinking!


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It's a great and profound quote.

The story behind its accredition reminds me of something that happened in the late 1800s when the Mahatmas who were H.P. Blavatsky's teachers would just make letters appear in peoples' rooms all over the world, often falling from the air. So this isn't quite channeling, and I agree with Giles' take on that subject. But with the Mahatma letters there were of course sceptics who didn't believe they were authentic and sought to prove some form of global trickery was afoot.

They found a paragraph or such in a letter by Koot Hoomi Lal Singh (now usually called Kuthumi) which was word-for-word the same as that in an existing book. Ah-ha! Evidence that the letters at least were not original pieces by a Himalayan Adept! But Kuthumi then replied trying to explain the very complex mechanism by which that and other letters were done. He said that he'd been riding a horse for days, lacking sleep, and had telepathically dictated the letter to a disciple scores of miles away. This disciple then wrote it down, and was capable of the teleportation. Under such hard conditions, not only riding, and simultaneously using telepathy, but actually composing the long letter, Kuthumi said he had indeed unwittingly used the words, which made his point well, not realising he'd picked them up from the ethers since many had read the book.

It's all a bit like the story behind George Harrisong's "My Sweet Lord". It was a big hit but later he was sued for plagiarism of the melody. It is indeed a note-for-note copy of the song, "He's So Fine" (which to me has better lyrics). Obviously George had unconsciously taken in this melody which came out in something like 1962-3.

The author of Course In Miracles seems to have done something the same?

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I think the current laws of plagiarism, wouldn't take too kindly to this, but there again law don't take into account the fact that many people can pick up on the same message that is being transmitted by the planetary hierarchy, the masters or call it whatever you want.

How many times do we get similar books being published at the same times, and is this merely coincidence or more than that. The message is the same, just a different messenger. If Rumi wrote it 800 years ago the message still carries the same power but would be available to a broader group - which I think is a great thing. It's the message that's important and not the personality who said it.

Luv Binah
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He said that he'd been riding a horse for days, lacking sleep, and had telepathically dictated the letter to a disciple scores of miles away. This disciple then wrote it down, and was capable of the teleportation. Under such hard conditions, not only riding, and simultaneously using telepathy, but actually composing the long letter, Kuthumi said he had indeed unwittingly used the words

But would that stand up in court? 🙂


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