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Energylz
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I had been participating in this thread (an exchange between myself and Giles was occuring), and then at post #38; speaking as Paul without his moderator hat (btw, Paul with moderator hat on is an alter ego, isn't it)

No, the moderators have to be clear when they are posting as themselves or as moderators, as there have been occasions when some members have confused matters even to the point we had one member telling us... or rather dictating to us... that because we were moderators we shouldn't be getting involved in discussions. :rolleyes:
So, when we post as moderators we will state that we have our moderators hat on, otherwise we are posting as members, just like anyone else. That's how it works.

All Love and Reiki Hugs


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No, the moderators have to be clear when they are posting as themselves or as moderators, as there have been occasions when some members have confused matters even to the point we had one member telling us... or rather dictating to us... that because we were moderators we shouldn't be getting involved in discussions. :rolleyes:
So, when we post as moderators we will state that we have our moderators hat on, otherwise we are posting as members, just like anyone else. That's how it works.

Yes, Giles. I understand that. 🙂

Paul did point out that he would state as and when he was operating in 'Moderator Paul' mode. The point I'm making about authenticity, an underlying conflict and abdication of responsibility is that if Paul is at one moment in 'personal' Paul mode and then in another moment in "Moderator Paul" mode - then this is a dual persona - which belies an underlying conflict. Demarcated with the donning of a 'moderator's hat'

Paul often states that he gave up judging other a long time ago. If Paul, has created an alter ego - 'Moderator Paul' through which to judge HP members behaviours as "right" and "wrong", surely a necessity, when performing his role as moderator. Then Paul, actual does have a divisional inner conflict:

Paul Crick, abdicating responsibility to "Moderator Paul", who finds it irrelevant whether or not he agrees or does not agree with the rules he has chosen to implement.


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amy green
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No, not stuck with anything. There were several things like that in the video and "heroic" was just one of them, used here for illustrative purposes. I don't intend to transcribe the whole video just to comment on each part of it. 😀
My point is though, and let's try and put it in plain terms... why does it need to 'entice' people with promises of feeling heroic or whatever. It's possible to be authentic without such enticements, as we all know inherently within us what acting with truth is, just so long as we learn to recognise the discursive mind and the tricks it plays to take us out of the present moment.

I see what you're saying - the video appears to hold out a carrot on a stick. Maybe the intent was to win more people over towards practising being authentic and the carrot might do the trick!

So you believe it's good to gain attachment to things? :032:
No - wrong conclusion here. I keep my ego in firm check. I don't need the enticements mentioned in this video - I already am firmly, long established authentic.

Aside from the pictures and music which are very samey (in relation to other videos of a similar ilk), if we're just talking about the messages, I would have left out all the enticements. e.g. simply "treat others with dignity and respect" rather than "treat others with dignity and respect; it will make you a person of quality"

As I mentioned previously, this would be similar to the Reiki princples:

Just for today (i.e. meet the needs of the present)
Be free of anger (i.e. just be free of anger, not because it should make you or others perceive you as being better for it)
Be free of worry (likewise the same)
Have gratitude (this is to all things regardless as everyone and thing is our teacher)
Work diligently (this is about practicing to the best of our ability, practicing what we preach, and working to our utmost ability to stick by our practice of Being; sometimes horribly corrupted in the west to mean "earn your living honestly", when it's nothing to do with earning a living)
Be kind to others (in the buddhist philosophy, all others have been our mother at some incarnation of our past lives, so we should treat all as we would want to be treated)

The actual translations can vary somewhat due to language, but the underlying intent is the same... live by these principles, not because there is a goal to be a better person, but because you simply know that they are the right way of living. There is no need to believe that these make you a better person, or to be told that, because you already know that living this way makes you the person you truly are, without judgement of being 'good' or 'bad'.

And that is where I felt the video fell short.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Thanks for your appraisal of how you would have made the video. I still think that, overall, the video has good intention and will motivate those in the right space to embrace becoming more authentic.

Thanks for the reiki principles. Fine as they are, they are not really about practising what you preach, i.e. walking the talk. Good directions none the less.


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What benefit would be got from financial rewards? I could buy more material things?... I don't need them. also help moderate a technical forum elsewhere, as well as giving my time to other things. If I have a true need for money, then I am able to meet those needs. I don't seek any rewards for helping people to be able to use forums without being disrupted by spammers or fear of other members etc.

I know a few millionaires and multimillionaires - materialism for materialism sake doesn't grab me, personally .Neither is money a vulgar or dirty word, to me (as it can be to some), and I don't see what's wrong with rewarding a person in financial terms for their work - their time and effort. How you live your life Giles is entirely your choice - that goes without saying really doesn't it.

However, lets take your volunteering your time and efforts to this site as an example. Mike isn't running a charity. He designs, sells and hosts websites to complementary therapists (is what I gather, roughly speaking). He is earning a living, paying his bills and you are is unpaid voluntary worker - your choice, Mike's choice, you've both agreed to work this way. 🙂

If you'd been paid for your efforts - the money earned doing something that you're clearly dedicated to, and that you clearly have the 'spare' time to devote to, could have been used to set up some kind of business of your own - in your 'spare' time (currently your 'spare' time and efforts are being donated to others) - a creative techie-type project, perhaps.

Doesn't the prospect of having free-rein to indulge and develop your creative technological (or whatever) ideas appeal to you at all?

Money doesn't have to just be about meeting material needs. Your authenticity could be mined to a greater depth 🙂

No, when I'm working, I'm working. I do work flexi hours, so can sometimes be on here at times of day that appear to be work-hours to others.

They're not funding HP. The time used is my own to do as I choose (within the rules of the land and business etc. hehe! :D)

Right :). Now I see where you're coming from. Honesty and integrity is in tact.

Being defensive, in the moment, I can see. Taking up a defensive stance for something in the future that has not yet happened, doesn't seem to make sense. Perhaps you'd like to start a seperate thread on that one for discussion. 😉

I see and understand what you're saying. Only, it does make sense to me. I understand myself pretty well, and I know what's going on underneath the superficial defensive stance - it all playing a part, everything is in it's proper place - and I'm 'happy' to leave everything exactly where it is, for the time being. So there's no need for a separate thread (imv). Although, I appreciate the intention behind the suggestion 🙂


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Tashanie
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Thanks for the reiki principles. Fine as they are, they are not really about practising what you preach, i.e. walking the talk. Good directions none the less.

The reiki principles are about integrity - and you cannot be integrated if you are not living authentically.

Trust me 'walking the talk' of the reiki ;principles is not easy. No-one who is not being authentic could really hope to live by them. Trying ti live by them is a voyage of self discovery - and that is surely where being authentic starts. If you don't know who you are you cannot be authentic i.


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