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Could your spirit guide be a demon? Thoughts on this story?

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[url]Warning! Spirit Guides Can Be Hazardous to Your Health | Aspects of the Occult[/url]

Hi everyone, I accidentally stumbled on this story I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this?

If this is true how to prevent it?


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Without meaning to offend, I think the author was wanting to find something to blame for those things that happened (I only skimmed the story so I won't get into detail).

Saying that "three and six are spirit numbers" as if that proves something negative is just subjective, as three can be seen positively in some spiritual sense such as the holy trinity in christianity etc.

And saying "during the next ten years I suffered several injury-related accidents, two bouts with Pneumonia, and one with Asthma — all spirit induced". On what evidence were these things spirit induced? It could just be that she didn't look after her health or there was some other factors.

I, personally, think that the spirits and spirit guides are what you want them to be, so if you choose to believe that they can be demonic, then that's what you'll get from them. A bit "law of attraction" if you like.

That's my view anyway. 😉

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Without meaning to offend, I think the author was wanting to find something to blame for those things that happened (I only skimmed the story so I won't get into detail).

Saying that "three and six are spirit numbers" as if that proves something negative is just subjective, as three can be seen positively in some spiritual sense such as the holy trinity in christianity etc.

And saying "during the next ten years I suffered several injury-related accidents, two bouts with Pneumonia, and one with Asthma — all spirit induced". On what evidence were these things spirit induced? It could just be that she didn't look after her health or there was some other factors.

I, personally, think that the spirits and spirit guides are what you want them to be, so if you choose to believe that they can be demonic, then that's what you'll get from them. A bit "law of attraction" if you like.

That's my view anyway. 😉

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Hi thanks for your input a good way to look at it, although not sure if you skimmed and read the parts of her talking about the things they said to her after she claims they revealed themselves as demons.

I feel I've been growing spiritually but become nervous hearing things like this lol

Do you personally believe in spirit guides? If so how can you truely be sure who your talking to?

Reiki hugs 🙂


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Hi thanks for your input a good way to look at it, although not sure if you skimmed and read the parts of her talking about the things they said to her after she claims they revealed themselves as demons.

Yes, I read those things, but my point was that perhaps she was hearing what she wanted to hear, so that she had someone/thing "else" to put the blame on.

I feel I've been growing spiritually but become nervous hearing things like this lol

Well, the best advice would be not to believe everything you read from other people just from their words. There are many people in this world with many different experiences and beliefs, and there's bound to be ones who say things that you don't want to hear (in fact their the ones most likely to be making a song and dance about it in public, as the ones getting on happily with their way of life are less likely to want to go out there and make sure everyone knows about it).

Do you personally believe in spirit guides? If so how can you truely be sure who your talking to?

Hmm.... good question. :rolleyes:

Can I answer yes and no?

Yes I do believe in spirit guides in one sense, but no I don't believe in spirit guides in the sense that you are likely to be meaning it. Sounds odd, I know, but I'll see if I can explain...

From personal experience (putting things to the test personally) I am confident that we live in a world where everything is connected, and that is the world of non-duality (there is no "other"), yet we are attached to our minds and our minds are great at creating dualistic concepts that essentially create "other" in the things we perceive.

So, based on that understanding, I can perfectly accept that spirit guides exist as a concept created within our one self, and that our minds see them as other, and the 'influence' of those spirits can be seperated from the influence of our smaller self (the dualistic belief of self, rather than the Oneness of Self). That is why our minds can perceive spirits as something seperate from ourselves and we can come to truly believe within our mind that the actions of those spirits are independent to what our own. Yet, considering all things as One, leads us to the concept of "we create our own universal perception", and hence why I say that if you choose to believe in demonic spirits then that is what you will create in your life, and why I say that, like the law of attraction, they will be what you want them to be.

It's something we see in Reiki quite a lot, with people talking of the need to ground and protect ourselves during reiki treatments so that we don't pick up 'bad' energy from our clients. From personal experience I've chosen not to believe that I can pick up a clients 'bad' energy, and guess what... I never have. It also relates to the buddhist philosophy of attachments, and the vedic philosophy of living in the present moment (or Eckhart Tolle's "power of now" if you like). Living in the present moment and not getting attached to the past or future, means that you won't pick up and carry somebody's else's negative energy, because that 'negative energy' is simply a manfestation of that person at that time, and not a manifestation of your own self.

Better stop now, as I can tell I'm waffling and probably going to confuse a little. 😀
Hopefully that gives a little insight into why I said what I did.

So, in answer to your question about who can I be sure who I'm talking to if talking to spirits... I'm talking to me Self... and that can be about getting in touch with my intuition and meeting the needs of this present moment. It will only be 'bad' or 'demonic' if that's what I choose... but I don't.

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Unlike Giles, I do believe in spirit guides and teachers in the sense that you probably do. Two things stand out for me in this story (although I’d agree with Giles that the writer was looking for outside influences to blame).

One is that she took the spirits that came to her as guides without any checks. In shamanism we make relationships with spirits who are introduced to us by spirits we already know, so that the trust is built up in much the same way as with a human. And the first spirit we meet is our power animal. If you have a good this-world teacher then you will be taught how to find your power animal, which you can trust.

Two – she looked at the whole thing from a Christian point of view, despite her saying that she had given up Christianity. The whole ‘messages from god’ and the ‘white light’ shows that. There are spirits who buy into the whole demon/angel scenario, just as there are humans who do. The writer bought into it. She had seen herself as being on the side of the angels. If she has aligned herself in this way, who can blame the other side, that she calls ‘demons’ from trying it on?

There are ways of doing this safely. Shamanism is one of them.


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