Notifications
Clear all

Probiotics causing heartburn

28 Posts
10 Users
0 Reactions
14.8 K Views
(@shelleywa)
Posts: 28
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to see if what I'm experiencing is familiar to anyone?

Until about a year ago, I had never experienced any kind of digestive health problems. Then I started taking those probiotic yogurt drinks once a day, just because I had heard about the health benefits. After a couple of weeks, I started getting horrific heartburn, all hours of the day. It took me a couple of weeks to realise that it might be the yogurt drinks, so I stopped taking them... and the heartburn went away. It took a few months to disappear completely (I was worried for a while that I had permanently weakened the valve and that I was stuck with it but eventually it did go away 100%).

I am now trying out the Paleo diet for a moth or two, to give my system a little clear out and one thing they recommend to take is probiotics, because of the lack of dairy intake. I figured I would try taking them in a tablet form this time and see if the heartburn returned. That was 2 weeks ago. This morning I have woken up to heartburn! Boo hoo.

What I want to know is this:
1. Are they actually good for us, or is it a fad/government money maker?
2. Is it likely to settle down after a while, if I continue to take them long-term (i.e. is it just the adjustment period?), or am I risking permanent damage?

Any opinions are welcomed!


 
Posted : 20/07/2014 3:58 am
(@darrensurrey)
Posts: 2792
Famed Member
 

AIUI probiotics are only necessary if you have a bowel problem eg IBS.

Paleo to give your system a clear out seems a pointless reason to do it. If you want to clear out your system, then eat lots of fibre with some linseeds.


 
Posted : 20/07/2014 8:29 am
(@shelleywa)
Posts: 28
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

Thanks!

I decided to try Paleo because I have chronic eczema and wonder if it's diet-related (as I imagine most things are), so just eating meat, poultry, fish, fruit, veg, nuts/seeds, spices/herbs for a few weeks to see if there's an improvement.

Never had any digestive problems but I seem to read/hear everywhere that everyone should take a probiotic for good health but I have my suspicions on that. It seems that my stomach does too 🙂


 
Posted : 20/07/2014 9:16 am
Crowan
(@crowan)
Posts: 3429
Famed Member
 

How would it be a government money- maker?


 
Posted : 20/07/2014 9:58 am
Tashanie
(@tashanie)
Posts: 1924
Noble Member
 

TBH the value of pro-biotics is unclear. But I have never heard of them causing heartburn but in my experience they are generally harmless. However based on what you have said they WRE a trigger for you and you should avoid them. Sadly once you have heartburn it tends to be there for good and you just have to work out what your triggers are and avoid them.

While I am not a fan of processed food I perosnally think the paleo diet is based on rather dodgy reasoning. We have been eating a NON paleo diet for centuries.....and if it was harmful we would have found out by now. Plus we have almost certainly evolved since paleolithic times.


 
Posted : 20/07/2014 3:50 pm
Crowan
(@crowan)
Posts: 3429
Famed Member
 

Palaeolithic people had varied diets, depending on where they lived. Although there was less in the way of starchy carbohydrates (probably) there would have been less protein than most people following the Paleo diet seem to consume.


 
Posted : 20/07/2014 4:47 pm
(@shelleywa)
Posts: 28
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

Thanks for all your responses!

I do agree to a certain extent with the Paleo argument and I don't intend to keep it up long-term. The trouble is, I'm just so sick of this chronic eczema and I don't know what the cause is (as demonstrated by the probiotic reaction, my body is weird!) but 3 well-known causes are dairy, sugar and stress. So I'm doing the most logical thing to me, which is cutting out all processed crap and then re-introducing the more processed foods slowly, keeping a food diary. Tashanie, I thought the same thing re our evolution but then I found this web page and I was surprised:

http://www.paleodietandliving.com/paleo-diet/paleo-diet-intro/

Crowan, I don't think I'm in too much danger of consuming too much protein, I was a vegetarian for years and meat & fish still grosses me out but it's just a temporary measure to see how my skin reacts. I'm still eating meat minimally, though.

As for the government money-maker, this could open up a whole new can of worms on the debate front but my opinion is that governments like to keep people sick, it makes more money for them. They know from their own research (and surely common sense) that all of the nasties pumped into our food, cosmetics, clothes etc. are harmful and can likely cause disease and cancers. They also know that a lot of their prescribed 'medications' cause illness of other sorts. There's also of course the debate that Governments are hiding the cure for cancer because keeping people sick generates so much revenue for them.

Again, this is all a matter of opinion before anyone shoots me down in flames but I'm just highlighting where my suspicions come from - I don't trust the Government at all. I also figure that the body is more than capable of fixing itself, given the correct natural food and environmental conditions... Not bacteria in a pill.


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 4:21 am
Tashanie
(@tashanie)
Posts: 1924
Noble Member
 

Shelley you are assuming the information on the website is correct.....There needs to be some objective evidence before I would be convinced


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 6:46 am
(@shelleywa)
Posts: 28
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

Fair play. But in my case I figured it's worth just giving it a go for a few weeks to see if things improve. And if they don't then I get to eat pasta and bread again 😀


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 7:14 am
(@darrensurrey)
Posts: 2792
Famed Member
 

3 well-known causes are dairy, sugar and stress. So I'm doing the most logical thing to me, which is cutting out all processed crap

Surely, the most logical thing is to cut out dairy, sugar and stress. 😀


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 10:11 am
Crowan
(@crowan)
Posts: 3429
Famed Member
 

Surely, the most logical thing is to cut out dairy, sugar and stress. 😀

Dairy and sugar tend to be highly processed. Also, highly processed foods usually contain sugar and often milk powders.
Cutting out stress is a whole other ball-game!


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 12:00 pm
(@darrensurrey)
Posts: 2792
Famed Member
 

But cutting out "processed foods" would be overkill. Not that it's not a bad idea anyway. But then you have to determine what is processed foods - some are obvious, others are borderline.


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 12:53 pm
Crowan
(@crowan)
Posts: 3429
Famed Member
 

But cutting out "processed foods" would be overkill. Not that it's not a bad idea anyway. But then you have to determine what is processed foods - some are obvious, others are borderline.

And it's nearly impossible to do.


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 2:28 pm
(@darrensurrey)
Posts: 2792
Famed Member
 

Exactly. 😉


 
Posted : 21/07/2014 8:50 pm
(@shelleywa)
Posts: 28
Trusted Member
Topic starter
 

Yes Darren, you're right! But stress reduction is, as Crowan says, not as easy as cutting out the other stuff!

I agree, it's very difficult to know exactly what you're eating without spending hours upon hours reading ingredients on things and then, in the case of meat, fish, eggs etc. finding out what foods the animals themselves were raised on... who's got the time??

Then of course there's the organic debate and if you decide to go down that route you have to pay 4 times as much for it, which is just daylight robbery - shouldn't good, clean, unpolluted food be the basic standard for everyone?

As far as 'processed' goes, I figure that any ingredient I can't pronounce probably shouldn't be in there and the more there are the worse it is!

I suppose in an ideal world we would still all live in little self-sufficient villages with farms to feed everyone and we could afford to have someone stay at home tending the organic vegetable patch and cooking all our meals from scratch, no need for additives, preservatives, bulking ingredients and other nasties. I suppose it really boils down to the same principal as most things in life, "if you want a job doing properly, do it yourself"! But again... Who has the time for that?? Sigh.


 
Posted : 22/07/2014 6:09 pm
Page 1 / 2
Share: