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Oranges, Lemons, and Apple cider


oshirowanen
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I've noticed that I get stomach pains if I have fresh orange juice, lemon water or apple cider. Fresh apple juice, pine apple juice, grape juice, cranberry juice do not give me the same pain.

The pain is a little more than a dull generalised stomach pain.

Any idea why I get this pain with orange, lemon and apple cider, and not with the other juices? Plus, how do I heal myself so I can drink orange juice, lemon water, and apple cider without getting the pain?

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Iolanthe
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Too acidic?

I have the same problem with orange juice Oshirowanen, but OK with the others you mentioned. I wonder if some juices are more acidic than others which could irritate a sensitive stomach lining?
I'm sure some of the other members will come up with some answers.
Blessings Iolanthe x

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CarolineN
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Hi there!

Among other things, this might be to do with food intolerances or it could be to do with mild gastritis.

You can get tested for food intolerances by doing a [url]blood prick test[/url] at home. If positive then you can go on to find out which things are causing problems. They send a booklet with information about how to cope with the intolerances and a free phone consultation.

If the answer is negative then I would be looking at your stress levels, which can lower the output of stomach acid. Normally stomach acid is there to help break down proteins in the process of digestion, and to kill off ingested pathogens. However if your levels drop, then this allows bugs like Helicobacter pylori to start invading your stomach wall causing mild inflammation, and in so doing lower your output of acid even further. This may be a precursor to a gastric ulcer.

I would suggest you see a registered[url] Nutritional Therapist [/url]who will help sort this out for you. They will recommend suitable supplements to help heal your gut (whichever the cause) and make life more bearable for you.

Wishing you all the best.

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Iolanthe
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Thanks for your reply Caroline. My problem is too much stomach acid, and definitely stress related, combined with IBS (diagnosed years ago.) The blood prick test sounds like a good idea.
Blessings Iolanthe X

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Hi Iolanthe

Can you tell me how the high stomach acid was diagnosed?

Symptoms of high and low very similar and often misdiagnosed.

Joy

ps. no-one needs to have IBS...honest! It is one of the things I specialise in seeing at work.

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Iolanthe
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Hi Patchouli,
I had a bad bout of acid reflux and was prescribed tablets to reduce the amount of stomach acid. It seemed to work, and I now try to avoid foods that set it off. Avoiding stress is a little more difficult :dft005:

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Patchouli
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How did the doctor diagnose this?

The symptoms of high stomach acid and low stomach acid are virtually identical and "high" stomach acid is often given as a diagnosis by GP's when in actual fact the problem is LOW stomach acid.

How was it diagnosed, did the doc just go by symptoms? Often people with IBS suffer LOW stomach acid and not high.

Do you still take the tablets as I can give you a home test to do which can ascertain whether it is high or low.

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Iolanthe
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By the symptoms. How else could it be diagnosed? :confused
Only took the tablets for a short while last year and felt a lot better after.

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Patchouli
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By the symptoms. How else could it be diagnosed? :confused
Only took the tablets for a short while last year and felt a lot better after.

Yes, this confuses a lot of doctors too. And, you ask how else could it be diagnosed, well there are lots of ways to diagnose (and not just by guessing).

Look up the symptoms of HYPOchlorhydria (low stomach acid). Hypochlorhydria symptoms are very much similar to hyperchlorhydria (high stomach acid).

Problem is the doc doesn't have anything to give you for hypo, but you can take a supplement for this.

I hate it when docs just decide these things by "the symptoms":rolleyes:

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Iolanthe
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Yeah I agree with you Patchouli! Thanks for your info 🙂
Blessings Iolanthe X

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ceedee4
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I've noticed that I get stomach pains if I have fresh orange juice, lemon water or apple cider. Fresh apple juice, pine apple juice, grape juice, cranberry juice do not give me the same pain.

The pain is a little more than a dull generalised stomach pain.

Any idea why I get this pain with orange, lemon and apple cider, and not with the other juices? Plus, how do I heal myself so I can drink orange juice, lemon water, and apple cider without getting the pain?

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ceedee4
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I have the same problem with citrus and apple cider. You may want to get checked for gastroparesis ( stomach takes 4 times as long to empty, therefore it's considered like a paralyzed stomach. On top of that I have acid reflux, hiatal hernia, is and fibro myalgia (which is another whole issue on the body.) I've noticed it become allergic to many foods I used to be able to consume. I went off all sugars as much as possible (sugar or corn syrup seems to be the nutritional value added these days. Sarcasm intended. You're not alone.:confused:

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ceedee4
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Sorry that should have been ibs not is.

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ceedee4
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How did the doctor diagnose this?

The symptoms of high stomach acid and low stomach acid are virtually identical and "high" stomach acid is often given as a diagnosis by GP's when in actual fact the problem is LOW stomach acid.

How was it diagnosed, did the doc just go by symptoms? Often people with IBS suffer LOW stomach acid and not high.

Do you still take the tablets as I can give you a home test to do which can ascertain whether it is high or low.

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ceedee4
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Patchouli, I'd like to know how to test also. I've been on a pump inhibitor for eons. When I stop taking it, I get horrible heart burn. Thanks!:)

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Zandalee
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Have been to an allergy doctor? There are test they can do..quick and can help. Good luck.

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