You say that, but show even one pharmaceutical medicine that doesn't come with a list of potential side effects as long as your arm.
Mountaineer if you read my signature I am a pharmacist as well as a complementary practitioner. I always tell people there is no such things as an effective drug which does NOT have unwanted effects. The same is true of herbal remedies. Indeed many modern drugs were derived from plants. Digoxin, Atropine, Curare. Or from moulds like Penicillin.
The decision to use ANY chemical treatment - drug or herbal - must ALWAYS be made after balancing the benefits against the risk. If you have a headache you take Paracteamol. Effective but few side effects. You don't take Morphine which is even more effective - but comes with a much longer list of potential problems. But if you have severe pain then the risks of Moprhine are worth the benefits,
I am a COMPLEMENTARY practitioner. I see holistic and conventional are being used side. On this forum I argue the merits of modern medicine as well as admitting its limitations On Pharmacy forums I fly the flag for complementary treatments - and have on one occasion been accused of being a quack.
There are times when I feel feel schizophrenic I admit but please don'y try to tell me about the risks of drugs. i know more about them than you ever will. t has been my job for over 30 years.
I will now get off my soapbox:)
I believe the Creator of everything put on the Earth all we needed to cure ourselves, we just need to find it,
So, did this 'Creator' also create the things for which we need cures? Why?
And saying we just need to find the thing that will cure us, implies it has been hidden - did this 'Creator' hide it? Why? Is it playing a game with us? Why?
Mountaineer if you read my signature I am a pharmacist as well as a complementary practitioner. I always tell people there is no such things as an effective drug which does NOT have unwanted effects. The same is true of herbal remedies. Indeed many modern drugs were derived from plants. Digoxin, Atropine, Curare. Or from moulds like Penicillin.
The decision to use ANY chemical treatment - drug or herbal - must ALWAYS be made after balancing the benefits against the risk. If you have a headache you take Paracteamol. Effective but few side effects. You don't take Morphine which is even more effective - but comes with a much longer list of potential problems. But if you have severe pain then the risks of Moprhine are worth the benefits,
I am a COMPLEMENTARY practitioner. I see holistic and conventional are being used side. On this forum I argue the merits of modern medicine as well as admitting its limitations On Pharmacy forums I fly the flag for complementary treatments - and have on one occasion been accused of being a quack.
There are times when I feel feel schizophrenic I admit but please don'y try to tell me about the risks of drugs. i know more about them than you ever will. t has been my job for over 30 years.
I will now get off my soapbox:)
I saw your signature Sally. I wasn't having a dig at you, but at a system of medicine that thinks it is superior and tries to do down everything that doesn't fall under its control.
As you say a quarter of all pharmaceutical drugs are plant-derived. Experimentation with plants to try to establish other plant-derived pharmaceutical drugs is permanently ongoing. I maintain it is double standards of the pharmaceutical industry to do so on the one hand and then attack natural treatments on the other.
Plant/natural remedies are on the whole considerably safer than pharmaceutical drugs. What is the figure for people hospitalized and killed as a result of side effects for pharmaceutical drugs? Remind me.
You sometimes hear of a toxic dose of Chinese herbs, other than that plant/natural medicines, if taken according to the recommended dosage, have an excellent safety record.
So, did this 'Creator' also create the things for which we need cures? Why?
And saying we just need to find the thing that will cure us, implies it has been hidden - did this 'Creator' hide it? Why? Is it playing a game with us? Why?
Not the sort of discussion I want to get into, or try to explain a non-believer.
but if we open ourselves to the guidance around us, we would be shown the necessary plants we would need, obviously you do not believe in the elementals!
Peace and light
Peter
Not the sort of discussion I want to get into, or try to explain a non-believer.
but if we open ourselves to the guidance around us, we would be shown the necessary plants we would need, obviously you do not believe in the elementals!
That's a shame you don't want to discuss that. In such cases, it just comes across as someone telling us that God exists and we have to believe it, which in most people's book is called preaching, and is exactly what many churches do.
If you come out with statements about how it IS and include God or a Creator in that, then it's only fair that people will want to discuss and understand why you believe that, otherwise it just becomes a one sided conversation.
And just because someone doesn't believe in God or a Creator doesn't mean that they have no understanding of 'elementals' of nature/life.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
That's a shame you don't want to discuss that. In such cases, it just comes across as someone telling us that God exists and we have to believe it, which in most people's book is called preaching, and is exactly what many churches do.
If you come out with statements about how it IS and include God or a Creator in that, then it's only fair that people will want to discuss and understand why you believe that, otherwise it just becomes a one sided conversation.
And just because someone doesn't believe in God or a Creator doesn't mean that they have no understanding of 'elementals' of nature/life.
All Love and Reiki Hugs
sorry I did not mean to be so abrupt , so many people ask me to prove that there is a God, but if people don't believe in God they cannot I personally believe, accept the elemental's
as they are servants of the Creator, and how can you have a servant with out someone to serve.
I am constantly asked for proof which I believe comes from within / not with out, if an angel were to appear now, after it had gone, people would say it was just had a hallucination, prove to us that it was an angel, and so it would go on, never enough proof.
at some stage perhaps I might start another thread about the elemental's, but proof is still unavailable to the ones that do not see them, but that does not mean they do not exist.
Peace and light
Peter
sorry I did not mean to be so abrupt , so many people ask me to prove that there is a God, but if people don't believe in God they cannot I personally believe, accept the elemental's
as they are servants of the Creator, and how can you have a servant with out someone to serve.I am constantly asked for proof which I believe comes from within / not with out, if an angel were to appear now, after it had gone, people would say it was just had a hallucination, prove to us that it was an angel, and so it would go on, never enough proof.
at some stage perhaps I might start another thread about the elemental's, but proof is still unavailable to the ones that do not see them, but that does not mean they do not exist.Peace and light
Peter
I wasn't asking you to prove anything, Peter. I was simply interested in why you think the way you do. No problem if you just want to make bold statements and then don't want to discuss them 🙂
I wasn't asking you to prove anything, Peter. I was simply interested in why you think the way you do. No problem if you just want to make bold statements and then don't want to discuss them 🙂
Again I do not want to appear rude, but for many years people have tried to prove the existence of God, and his helpers, to no avail to the disbelievers in God, it was just seeming like I was being set an impossible task.
People who know all the elemental's, and belief in God do not need me to prove to them.
Peace and Light
Peter
Again I do not want to appear rude, but for many years people have tried to prove the existence of God, and his helpers, to no avail to the disbelievers in God, it was just seeming like I was being set an impossible task.
People who know all the elemental's, and belief in God do not need me to prove to them.Peace and Light
Peter
Another bold statement which, presumably, you will not wish to discus 🙂
Another bold statement which, presumably, you will not wish to discus 🙂
Hi again
Ok what would you like to know, I'm at not being evasive just truthful as I can without upsetting people.
Peace and light
Peter
Tashanie, I will gladly take the 'side effects' from herbals before I will from all the 'FDA approved' drugs on the market. I wonder where I would be today if I had succumbed to cut, burn,radiate and intimidate instead of going the natural path. In the US, drugs are king and those who take herbals are perceived as 'not getting it'. Ingest known carcinogens to cure cancer.........what a concept-glad I didn't 'get it'. There will NEVER be a cure for cancer as far as Big Pharma is concerned!!!
kcat
Tashanie, I will gladly take the 'side effects' from herbals before I will from all the 'FDA approved' drugs on the market. I wonder where I would be today if I had succumbed to cut, burn,radiate and intimidate instead of going the natural path. In the US, drugs are king and those who take herbals are perceived as 'not getting it'. Ingest known carcinogens to cure cancer.........what a concept-glad I didn't 'get it'. There will NEVER be a cure for cancer as far as Big Pharma is concerned!!!
kcat
Hi
You say " There will NEVER be a cure for cancer as far as Big Pharma is concerned!!!"
that is what i believe,we are just controlled by what they want us to know,and what cures are re-leased,providing it does not interfere with the money coming in.
(little or none)
As soon as a cure is re-leased the money would stop for them!
How many poor souls, die of the side effect of their so called treatment?
There deeds await them,when they pass over! as they reap so they will sow,but a mulitude of the harvest that they have sown! (
Peace and Light
Peter
Hi
You say " There will NEVER be a cure for cancer as far as Big Pharma is concerned!!!"
that is what i believe,we are just controlled by what they want us to know,and what cures are re-leased,providing it does not interfere with the money coming in.
(little or none)As soon as a cure is re-leased the money would stop for them!
How many poor souls, die of the side effect of their so called treatment?There deeds await them,when they pass over! as they reap so they will sow,but a mulitude of the harvest that they have sown! (
Peace and Light
Peter
Couldn't agree with you more 🙂
kcat
Another bold statement which, presumably, you will not wish to discus 🙂
Hi
try reading the book "In The Light Of Truth" this is evidence I believe that God exist, if you are spiritually awake you will understand it.
Peace and light
Peter
Hi
try reading the book "In The Light Of Truth" this is evidence I believe that God exist, if you are spiritually awake you will understand it.Peace and light
Peter
I've had a glimpse at it, Peter, and have to say I have read much like it before.
It is only one man's opinion and ironic that that very man, in his foreword, says, 'Only he who bestirs himself can advance spiritually. The fool who uses extraneous aids for this, in the form of the ready-made opinions of others.'
The section on the perils of 'mixed bathing' was amusing, but the following quote clinches it for me:
'God stands before humanity demanding, not enticing and pleading, not lamenting and grieving. He will calmly abandon to the Darkness all the wicked, even all the wavering ones.'
Nice 🙂