Hi Iant
Thanks so much for all the links. Really appreciate it. I don't think I will be going for prolotherapy just yet. I'm seeing a cranial osteopath, which is more subtle than the high velocity thrust tecnique of most osteopaths, so hoping that may help.
Thanks again.
Hello Krunchie, wanted to say thankyou for such an informative and extremely useful post you have submitted. I am at the start of a prolotherapy search, like you, delve into everything but wondering where to get things started really. Im looking into this on behalf of my son who has lived for his sport since he was a little'un - football - he is just starting a 3 year sports science degree and what happens a few weeks ago - a football injury - the consultant has informed that he has significant damage to his anterior cruciate ligament and his medial ligament also, they have automatically suggested surgery. Having started doing some research about this and hit on the prolo treatment I was intrigued and am hoping above all else that surgery can be avoided. One of the articles I have read states that the MRI scans are not completely accurate, also states that unless it is a grade 3 injury with a full rupture, to avoid surgery at all costs - it also states that post op - the ligaments are never as strong as before and also that you can have problems with arthritis in later life. My concern is that the doctors he will now have to see - at university - may not be aware of prolotherapy treatments - do you know if this is available on the NHS? - if not - please would you advise me of the Dr that you saw (contact details etc) as I hadnt realised that the treatment success depended on the Dr's skill and experience. I have absolutely no idea what such treatments would cost, with my son being a student finances are going to be an issue but obviously as a parent my son's health is paramount. Really looking forward to hearing from you, regards,
http://www.drbrianpattinson.co.uk/index.html
this is the man that krunchie knows
from my research of prolo i know that deep knee ligaments are tricky to treat. Some prolo Dr's do not do them or they require e ray guidence
i have personally met Brian and his assessment was far better than any i've had from any other Orthopeadic Dr. If he can't prolo it then he will be honest rather than take the money and take the risk....
Hello Iant, many thanks for that information, have had a look at the website and want to book an appt!- the injury my son has was sustained when playing football at a local university (not his own), Im wondering if there's any process for claiming compensation via the FA or ?? Would be nice if they would fund the fees eh......................
thanks again 🙂
re your sons knee injury. i lived and trained at the high performance centre of athletics for 4 yrs (loughborough Uni HPAC EIS). when an athlete required surgery they would get sent to who were considered the "best". sometimes abroad to esnure they had the best chance of a full recovery and ensuring the injury site would be as strong as it was pre injury. i see if i have a contact for knee specialists in the uk.
there is a guy over in the states who all the top footy players go to but will costs a lot i would imagine
That's very inspirational to hear and certainly that's the way it should be. I'm worried that my son will just be put through for a routine surgery op without other options being considered, I have told him that I've been researching about the prolo and have been trying to explain what the treatment is (from the little I know) he said he will ask the uni GP about it, but if they are not aware of this therapy, I suspect they'll just send him on to orthopaedics and book in an op. Mind you, I expect there'll be a significant waiting list. But, many many thanks for taking the time to reply, so much appreciated - in the meantime, I've bought the winning lotto ticket for Sat so at least that's a big plus............ 🙂
this is the guy to read about re knee surgery
many of the top professionals go to him as his techniques give the knee the best chance possible to fully recover. he usuly does 2 operations rather than an all in one job whihc is aparently the reason why its so successful. i know of a british runner who had a knee op done by him and made a full recovery and got back to cross country running at a nat standard. luckily for him he was on scholarship in the states at the time.
not sure if prolo can be used on this type of injury. you would have to research...
http://www.physioroom.com/news/news_story.php?id=720
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/6198502.stm
http://www.steadman-hawkins.com/physicianSteadman.asp
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1814627,00.html
Blimey, doesnt money talk........... have checked out the websites, I see that Michael Owen went to Colarado for his knee op, bet you they don't have MRSA problems in their hospital.
I really appreciate you sending the information through, it has been very helpful. I just wish this was all available on the NHS.....................
great success with prolotherapy for me so far
shame on all those so could experts who say lower back ligament laxity does not exist.
Hello Krunchie
Can you give me the contact details of the Doctor that you recieved the prolotherapy from. Thank You
Hello
Thinking of prolotherapy.
Is anyone else in same situation who knows a good doctor?
great success with prolotherapy for me so far
shame on all those so could experts who say lower back ligament laxity does not exist.
What an interesting thread, Ian, how are you now two more years on?
Please read this.
Hi,
I don't know if you still post here, but I'm hoping and praying that you do. I am the mother of a son, 31 years old with back issues that cause chronic pain. I would like for him to see a prolotherapist--a good one. I can't afford to send him to mutliple doctors until we find the prolotherapist who is a good one. I am so desperate! It is terrible to hear and see him in such pain. If only I could bear it for him! Please could you send me the contact info on your doctor in London.
Bless you,
Babette
http://www.drbrianpattinson.co.uk/index.html
this is the man that krunchie knows
from my research of prolo i know that deep knee ligaments are tricky to treat. Some prolo Dr's do not do them or they require e ray guidence
i have personally met Brian and his assessment was far better than any i've had from any other Orthopeadic Dr. If he can't prolo it then he will be honest rather than take the money and take the risk....
This is a prolo guy ian spoke highly of maybe he can help.
Ian himself hasn't been on healthypages for some time but lets hope he pops in and lets us know ! I've got a feeling he worked as a journalist/researcher for a running magazine.
steve
Thank you ALL Very Much Indeed for a SUPERB thread and info.!
I wander if you could help me please?
have only day before yesterday heard of prolotherapy.
was suppouse to have this coming monday(2 days time) a partial removal of coccyx-due to infalamation there.
I'm very impressed of d effect of this prolotherapy. So much so that i've cancelled d surgery. Instead i'm going to have a meeting with surgeon on Tuesday, about maybe having this therapy instead...
However, have noticed that ligaments are only treated with prolo rather than bone inflamation? Am i correct?
Looking forward to your info. and i Thank You in Advance.