can't get well

Hi Aita and welcome to Healthypages,

In energy healing styles like Reiki, the history was that people used healing techniques that used Ki (aka Chi) energy, but this was using the Ki energy the person had within themselves, leaving a person feeling drained of energy when they had used it. When Reiki was developed, this changed the healing from being that of using one's own Ki, to using the Ki of the universe, which actually bring Ki into the person giving the treatment too, so all benefit.

You haven't described what you do with your style of healing, but perhaps you can look into such techniques as Reiki, and consider getting an attunement to it.

All Love and Reiki Hugs

Hi Giles,

The "style" that I use sounds weird when I think about putting into to words but here goes.

I put my hands on the front and back of the head of the person I try to heal. Then I imagine that my lungs are like a big fork, next I imagine that the pain the person is feeling is like a spagetti - wool. The spagetti - wool then travel out of their head and along my arms. As I breath in the wool is pulled into my lungs as the fork turns, just like eating spagetti. Then as I exhale the pain leaves from my lungs, I tend to blow the pain out of a window.

When my kids were babies and cried I had different styles for each of them, these styles came from them; with my son I imagined all the acorns in the world vibrating. With my daughter I imagined looking down into a cosmos, seeing galaxyies and all the circles and orbits of each one. When I could visulise these clearly and not think any other thoughts I found they would settle to sleep quite well.

Aita

Hello Aita. Welcome to Healthypages!

Maybe you've been so busy trying to improve other people's health you've neglected your own...

Then as I exhale the pain leaves from my lungs, I tend to blow the pain out of a window.

This may be where your problem lies - in not blowing it all out. What you are doing is what shamanic practitioners call “sucking extraction” – except you are doing it without the protection of your spirits – a practice that is well known (among shamanic practitioners) to be one of the most dangerous ways of healing for the untrained.

And, when you’ve blown it out of the window, where does it go then?

Thanks Crowan,

I had never realised!

Do you have any suggestions?

Aita

Thanks Crowan,

I had never realised!

Do you have any suggestions?

Aita

My suggestions may not be what you want to hear – I suggest that you get some training.
Please understand that I speak with no authority on any method other than shamanism, and to get to a stage of learning safe sucking extraction would take about three years.
What safety measures do you have? Do you work with a spirit teacher/guide?

What safety measures do you have? Do you work with a spirit teacher/guide?

None and No - I hadn't realised I needed them, sorry if this sounds naive.

I'll stop what I'm doing untill I get some training.

BTW what happens to the pain that gets blown out the window?

BTW what happens to the pain that gets blown out the window?

Generally it will float around until it latches onto someone else.

Whereabouts do you live?

Whereabouts do you live?

Quite a long way from Scarborough...I don't feel it would be wise to say where I live. I wouldn't want to worry anyone who may live near me on this forum.

However, I don't intend to do any more healing until I seek some guidence.

Can you suggest anything I can do in the meantime to get well from a shamanic veiw point?

Hi, Aita,
I asked where you live because I thought I might be able to recommend a shamanic practitioner. If you go to here, which is the list of members who belong to the Core Shamanic Practitioners’ Circle, you may find someone in your area.
If these are all too far away, send me a private message and I’ll ask amongst the wider shamanic community.
(Everyone on the CSPC list will know me, so – if you do contact one of them – say that Jane thinks that you will need an extraction.)
Jane

Hello Aita. Welcome to Healthypages!

Maybe you've been so busy trying to improve other people's health you've neglected your own...

I think you're quite right Mountaineer, and sorry for not acknowledging you sooner.

Hopefully I'll be getting some help soon.

kr
Aita

Healing.

Any healing has to come through not from you. I agree with the post about the Universe (call it what you will) being the source of healing. Our self must be got out of the way before healing can occur. If someone says "I can heal you", run a mile. They have not understood what healing is about. The meaning of the word 'empathy' is to "enter into the other's suffering as if it were your own". Now this takes a lot out of someone who has not been taught how to preserve their own energy. You can laugh with someone, you can weep with someone, but you must preserve your own energy otherwise you are of no use to anyone. It is said in The New Testament that Jesus (the Master Healer) wept when he saw the plight of others yet went on to do one of the greatest acts of healing known. "I of myself can do nothing", he said. Any healer who thinks he/she can heal is acting from a false premise. This is controversial and it is left to the individual to decide from whence the healing comes. But unless the ego or little self is removed and we open up to the Universal source then no real healing can occur. The word 'humility' comes to mind.

Hi Jonathan

Any healing has to come through not from you. I agree with the post about the Universe (call it what you will) being the source of healing. Our self must be got out of the way before healing can occur. If someone says "I can heal you", run a mile. They have not understood what healing is about.

Where do you actually perceive that the healing comes form if it is separate and outside of the healer? and who is going to perform the healing if not the healer?

The meaning of the word 'empathy' is to "enter into the other's suffering as if it were your own". Now this takes a lot out of someone who has not been taught how to preserve their own energy. You can laugh with someone, you can weep with someone, but you must preserve your own energy otherwise you are of no use to anyone.

Not that is not the meaning of the word empathy, empathy is simply the ability to understand and share the feelings of another, it is nothing more than a sense of what is, it does not drain people of their own vital life force power any more than healing does, we create the amount of life force power that we require in any given moment.

If an empath should choose to become what someone else is experiencing and experience that within the fullness of self, then they will still not drain themselves of their vital life force power, they will transform the type of life force power that they are generating to allow them to become what they have sensed within someone else, nothing is lost or gained within the process of change, only change happens.

Any healer who thinks he/she can heal is acting from a false premise. This is controversial and it is left to the individual to decide from whence the healing comes. But unless the ego or little self is removed and we open up to the Universal source then no real healing can occur. The word 'humility' comes to mind.

No the word humanity does not come to my mind, what comes to my mind is the words 'human being', the human physical aspect of self has difficulty perceiving healing as it is non physical in nature, but the consciousness being aspects of self can become mindful of the fullness of self and through that mindfulness both perceive and learn how to perform healing for self and others.

All is one, we are all an integral aspect of oneness of consciousness, to attempt to make ourselves separate from the source is to create self disempowering thought patterns and beliefs, which will cause inner conflicts and stop us from achieving our goal of learning how to heal self and others.

If people who choose to learn how to become healers do not believe that they can actually learn how to heal, then hey presto 'Your wish is my command' that is what their self disempowering though patterns and beliefs are going to set up within their life experience for themselves, everything starts and finishes with a thought, a healer who thinks 'I cannot heal' is going to have a hard time healing, this is the same with everything, we have to perceive that it is possible for us to do something before we can set about fathoming how to set about doing it. 🙂

Healing.

Hi. Paul. I used the word 'humility' not humanity as you have quoted. I know this is a much discussed subject and controversial but I thank you for your comments. My view is that we are conduits or channels for healing. As to where it comes from well, that necessitates belief and we enter the world of religion which is difficult. Like politics it is impossible to find everyone in accord. To me there exists a power that is beyond our immediate comprehension but that can be called into play given the right circumstances and by the right persons. It is as if a window opens into another dimension; momentarily perhaps. Prayer is a good example where sincere prayer has been known to work miracles. I have seen this happen. I do not believe you can teach healing any more than you can teach anyone to be an artist or a poet. The ability to perform these works is born with us and can be brought out during our lifetime. But if not there at the beginning then whatever is produced will be a shadow of the real thing, and unfortunately, may be mistaken for the real thing. As for believing in the 'self' I have always found this difficult. How do we define the 'self'? A bundle of emotions and complexes stored in memory and acted upon in life? Does the 'self' even exist except in that form? Perhaps the real Self lies much deeper within our unconscious and is never seen except by those who have knowledge of it and seek it out. This is why the esoteric schools of Christianity and other religions were so secretive about their teachings. Thanks again for the comments. Best wishes. jonathan.