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qinewbie
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Hello to everyone on here!

I apologize for the forthcoming "ramble", but i have so much i wish to learn!

I'm new here, as i have been searching (without much success) on the benefits of these 2 exercises (not the benefits listed normally like improved immune and cardiovascular system) - no - i'm thinking more in terms of the development and enhancement of my Chi (outer - like iron shirt) and inner.

I have only been doing just the Ba duan jin for 8 weeks now, and have had some strange things happen to me - like when i have finished on a few occassions, both of my hands (from the wrists downwards) started shaking (from side to side, like you do when you shake water off) uncontrolably, or i can feel tingling or something like warm pins and needles all over. For this exercise, does anyone know if such experiences are normal? I've thought it might just be my internal chi being unblocked or "settling"?

Also, my main question is: are there any qigong techniques i can employ/exercises where i can develop my chi to such an extent that i can influence others by (forgive the use of this word) "projecting" it towards others? (do we not already mainly do that by eye-contact anyway?).

I don't buy many of these "chi-projection" videos on the internet, but i genuinely wonder: is it possible to develop this skill, if it even exists? Can i influence others with my chi once developed?

And lastly, the 5 animal frolics is said to be the oldest most complete system (from what i've read anyway so far). Are it's benefits more profound than the 8 pieces of brocade?

Sorry for rambling...

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darrensurrey
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I think you need to find a suitable instructor rather than learning this kind of thing on the internet/YT. I can get my beginner students to project chi through their fingers. Your sensations may be normal (I do get a tingling sensation) but they may not be. A good instructor can help.

Where are you based?

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qinewbie
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I think you need to find a suitable instructor rather than learning this kind of thing on the internet/YT. I can get my beginner students to project chi through their fingers. Your sensations may be normal (I do get a tingling sensation) but they may not be. A good instructor can help.

Where are you based?

GLASGOW (thanks for replying)

I'm pretty relauctant to go to an instructor, but maybe a decent one (particularly one who knows more about Chi development) would be able to help me increase my chi...?

Having just started to learn accupressure, i have (unbeleivably - according to the sceptic on who i "performed it") "removed someone's migrane with the sordfinger technique - maybe just a fluke, but they were doubtful, and SWORE their migrane disappeared!

(the main book i first purchased which got me interested in qigong was just before christmas: "The way of Qigong - the art and science of Chinese energy healing" by Kenneth Cohen - which is STILL blowing my mind!

There seems to be some sort of link between chi development, and Zen meditation...

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Tashanie
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There is a link between chi and meditation. It comes via the Taoist tradition which is one of the many traditions that have influenced what we now call 'tai chi' I have got a taoist meditation that I got on my kindle that is all about maintaining and directing your chi. I am a teacher of qigong and if any pupil of mine reported shaking feelings I would actually be rather worried. In fact i would ask advice from my trainer........Tingling and warmth are normal as you start to feel your chi.

The only way to develop your chi is with a good diet, and good breathing (which is basically what qigong is about) Your can develop your sensitivity to chi and increase your ability to direct it where you want . You can learn how to better protect the chi you inherited from your parents so you don't deplete it.

As far as projecting chi......well I am a reiki master and for me that is exactly what I am doing when I give reiki. I do feel you need a qualified teacher.

While a certain amount can be learned from books, learning from an expert is always a good idea. Or you may actually do yourself more harm than good.

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darrensurrey
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GLASGOW (thanks for replying)

I'm pretty relauctant to go to an instructor, but maybe a decent one (particularly one who knows more about Chi development) would be able to help me increase my chi...?

I don't know anyone in that area unfortunately.

If you want to learn about controlling your chi then you really need a teacher so you don't give yourself health problems.

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