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PeterM81
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Hello everyone,
I have posted this problem on other sites, hopefully I finally get a reply from this forum.

I have had this problem with my back since about a year an a half.
I have a dull discomfort (I wouldnt call it pain) occasionally under my left shoulder blade near my spine, and under my shoulder blade.
I can`t really pinpoint it, but when I put my fists on my back and push it while straightening my posture, it cracks....all the way from my lowest rib to almost my neck. It hurts but then there`s relief. Also when i bend my torso to the left and right, sometimes it cracks in that spot. Also when i lie on my stomach and take a deep breath that whole area there cracks.
I have no idea what it can be? I guess there are plenty of muscles there but usually when I press my rib-cage there it cracks.
I tried stretching, warm bath, even Non Steroidal Anti inflamation drugs like Diclogesic 50.

The other issue I have is my left clavicle is cracking like rice krispies. I can actually pinpoint it, I press my finger on the point where it connects to my sternum and I feel it crackling under my finger as I move my left arm infront of me. What could that be? This started a few months back.

Its quite uncomfortable and I dont know what could be causing it.
My bed and my office chair is quite uncomfortable....but I dont think its that.

Im 30 years old, male. Roughly 90 kg. I dont exercise regularly but I occasionally swim (twice a week) also I have a sitting job, staring at a PC all day.

Hope someone can help me, or has the same cracking problem. (I hope they dont, but then Im not alone)

Cheers
Peter M

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jeannie
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Just popping by to say I hope someone can come by here and give you some advice must be awful for you. Good luck hope you get it sorted soon.

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Finalshine
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Cracking is a sign of nitrogen escaping the joints, it's in the air we breath and we don't use it so we tend to breath it back out. However, it can accumulate at the joints and they need a release. Straight away I can tell you having a slightly more active lifestyle will help relieve it, although you may want to discuss it with your GP to make sure it's nothing serious and no damage has occurred. 🙂

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biggazfromlincoln
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Hello Peter,
perhaps you should consider becoming more active or addressing your postural dysfunction, I suspect your rhomboids are weakened and trapezius are over active, a common forward head postural complaint.
The cracking, aside from the nitrogen comment above, could simply be muscles moving over one another or over bony prominences.
Any remedial masseur or appropriately trained therapist will sort these issue, however you have to reeducate the affected muscles and that means taking ownership of your postural problems
regards
BGFL

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stephen jeffrey
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Hi Peter
Are you sure its the joint's that are crackling? as It may be the muscles themselves.

Occupations that require long hours at computors can have many insidious effects on the muscular system via the strain of fixed posture and shallow breathing.

Lack of oxygen to the tissues, lack of movement, lack of hydration can all lead to fibrosis (hardening) of the soft (contractile) segments within muscle. So what you hear are these segments crackling as they try to slide passed one another. These segments fail to contract as part of normal function and so sometimes cause pain to be experienced.

At Work
Drink more water to increase hydration, this will increase your need to visit the toilet.
So use these opertunitys to visit the toilets furthest away from your desk, try to include a (jog up) few flights of stairs. You will be increasing your heart rate (blood oxygen flow) and breaking any shallow breathing patterns you may inadvertantly be adopting and pumping muscle fatigue products away at the same time. Try to include a brisk walk at meal breaks.

At home every eve before sleep do some gentle stretching (fibrosed tisue does not like strong stretches). This will help elongate strained posturall muscles that will in turn help the spinal disks etc to rehydrate overnight.

See a remedial, sports massage therapist, or Sports therapist for treatment, or visit an osteopath for diagnosis.

Regards steve

PS I realize my suggestions for the workplace might not be practical but if you dont do what your body is designed for = MOVE your problems may get worse.

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PeterM81
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Thanks

Thank you for your replies.

Yes the cracking when I stretch my back is like cracking knuckles but when I stretch my shoulder blade by moving and stretching my left arm, theres a spot where I feel like its stretching a mini muscle or tendon, like my shoulder blade is pulling my muscle and a rib...the sound it makes is like tearing crackling..like muscle yes.

I drink plenty water and tea, I have been avoiding carbonated drinks for awhile now.
And I quit smoking a few months ago.

Theres is still the question of my sternum and clavicle crackling like rice krispies.
Left clavicle where it joins the sternum. I even feel the crackling with my fingers, like a bad joint crackling. Perhaps cartilage. Grape seed oil or Omega 3 intake??

Any more help or input would be appreciated.

Thank you

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Mtbw
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Hello everyone,
I have posted this problem on other sites, hopefully I finally get a reply from this forum.

I have had this problem with my back since about a year an a half.
I have a dull discomfort (I wouldnt call it pain) occasionally under my left shoulder blade near my spine, and under my shoulder blade.
I can`t really pinpoint it, but when I put my fists on my back and push it while straightening my posture, it cracks....all the way from my lowest rib to almost my neck. It hurts but then there`s relief. Also when i bend my torso to the left and right, sometimes it cracks in that spot. Also when i lie on my stomach and take a deep breath that whole area there cracks.
I have no idea what it can be? I guess there are plenty of muscles there but usually when I press my rib-cage there it cracks.
I tried stretching, warm bath, even Non Steroidal Anti inflamation drugs like Diclogesic 50.

The other issue I have is my left clavicle is cracking like rice krispies. I can actually pinpoint it, I press my finger on the point where it connects to my sternum and I feel it crackling under my finger as I move my left arm infront of me. What could that be? This started a few months back.

Its quite uncomfortable and I dont know what could be causing it.
My bed and my office chair is quite uncomfortable....but I dont think its that.

Im 30 years old, male. Roughly 90 kg. I dont exercise regularly but I occasionally swim (twice a week) also I have a sitting job, staring at a PC all day.

Hope someone can help me, or has the same cracking problem. (I hope they dont, but then Im not alone)

Cheers
Peter M

Popping sounds called cavitation. There are different reasons for you condition but this is common issue you discribe.
Write me , I need more info to give you advice and maybe help

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Mtbw
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Cracking is a sign of nitrogen escaping the joints, it's in the air we breath and we don't use it so we tend to breath it back out. However, it can accumulate at the joints and they need a release. Straight away I can tell you having a slightly more active lifestyle will help relieve it, although you may want to discuss it with your GP to make sure it's nothing serious and no damage has occurred. 🙂

It cannot escape the joint. Refresh you info including about synovial fluid.
1. He needs to check type of pain
2. Then, according to 1., identify the problem.
3. Solve it

Subluxations in spine in his case I think is the secondary issue
Of course clavicle and posture will be affected

From his description there is muscle impalance presented (suppose UCS)
To solve his problem he need to find the primary source of ‘bad changes’.
It can be foot, knee, hip, back or/and head...

He can visit chiro and I am sure 2-3 sessions and he will be much better
But: you are right, he needs to change his posture and balance his muscles in any way

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Mtbw
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Hi Peter
Are you sure its the joint's that are crackling? as It may be the muscles themselves.

Occupations that require long hours at computors can have many insidious effects on the muscular system via the strain of fixed posture and shallow breathing.

Lack of oxygen to the tissues, lack of movement, lack of hydration can all lead to fibrosis (hardening) of the soft (contractile) segments within muscle. So what you hear are these segments crackling as they try to slide passed one another. These segments fail to contract as part of normal function and so sometimes cause pain to be experienced.

At Work
Drink more water to increase hydration, this will increase your need to visit the toilet.
So use these opertunitys to visit the toilets furthest away from your desk, try to include a (jog up) few flights of stairs. You will be increasing your heart rate (blood oxygen flow) and breaking any shallow breathing patterns you may inadvertantly be adopting and pumping muscle fatigue products away at the same time. Try to include a brisk walk at meal breaks.

At home every eve before sleep do some gentle stretching (fibrosed tisue does not like strong stretches). This will help elongate strained posturall muscles that will in turn help the spinal disks etc to rehydrate overnight.

See a remedial, sports massage therapist, or Sports therapist for treatment, or visit an osteopath for diagnosis.

Regards steve

PS I realize my suggestions for the workplace might not be practical but if you dont do what your body is designed for = MOVE your problems may get worse.

Why do you think then bones/joints have ability to contract?
Fibrosis is fibrosis and how you can make diagnose just from this info. Absolutely inadequate conclusion. Adhesions can cause limitation in contract ability of muscle too.

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