Shamanic reiki

[Crowan]

Recently I have had "shamanic reiki" mentioned to me several times. Would any one care to explain what it is?

[mentalistical]

I'm currently reading shamanic reiki by Lynn Roberts and Robert levy. Their book is about joining shamanic practices with reiki . It's very interesting. It is like a manual of how.to help clients by using shamanic techniques during a reiki session when energy blocks are found and utilisng practices such a cord removing and journeying.

I recommend it. I'm interested in shamanism but have no training but also know a little
about the terminology and practices. It's worth a read.

Mel

[Crowan]

Originally Posted by mentalistical

I'm currently reading shamanic reiki by Lynn Roberts and Robert levy. Their book is about joining shamanic practices with reiki . It's very interesting. It is like a manual of how.to help clients by using shamanic techniques during a reiki session when energy blocks are found and utilisng practices such a cord removing and journeying.

I think I have read this book - it was a while ago and I will have to check. If so, it had nothing in it that I could recognise as shamanism. There's a lot of visualisation and the 'sending of light' which fits with the little I know about reiki but really isn't shamanism. And there's a lot of mention of energy but not of spirits.
If this is what 'shamanic reiki' is, then fair enough - it's a name that's been concocted in order to attract more punters. I just wondered if anyone knew if there were more to it that was actually shamanic.
Or maybe you've read it more carefully and can find bits in it that will prove me wrong.

[mentalistical]

I'm far from an expert on either subject but ti have been to a shaman for journeying and cord cutting. The part I'm currently reading is about using the elements, I've just finished a part on focusing on removing intrusions. With my limited experience I thought these were shamanic practises? I have yet to finish the book but haven't reached anything yet about spirits I'm afraid.

Who knows maybe its a very surface skimming way of adding shamanism to reiki ?

[butterflywings]

You could have a look at Jim Pathfinder Ewing's 'Reiki Shamanism' and 'Dreams of a Reiki Shaman'. Jim is a shaman who learnt Reiki.

[Crowan]

Originally Posted by mentalistical

I've just finished a part on focusing on removing intrusions. With my limited experience I thought these were shamanic practises? I have yet to finish the book but haven't reached anything yet about spirits I'm afraid.

I think you are mistaking extraction (removing intrusions) and soul retrieval for shamanic practices.
People lose soul/power and get intrusions. Shamanic methods are the best way I know of sorting these problems out. But to class them as shamanic practices is no more accurate than classing healing a bad back as an aromatherapy practice. It's just one way of dealing with a problem. Shamanism tends to be the way to deal with such situations because of millennia of experience to draw on which enables us to do it (relatively) safely.
Shamanic practice involves journeying to the spirit world to communicate and negotiate with spirits in order to effect change (information/advice/healing) in this world. Without travelling to the spirit world (as opposed to calling the spirits to you here) and without that communication and change, there is no shamanism being practiced.

[Crowan]

Originally Posted by butterflywings

You could have a look at Jim Pathfinder Ewing's 'Reiki Shamanism' and 'Dreams of a Reiki Shaman'. Jim is a shaman who learnt Reiki.

Any chance of you explaining (simply, please) how the two fit together?

[butterflywings]

Very very simply Jim Pathfinder Ewing sees Reiki as being a shamanic practice and does all his distance healing within shamanic journey. He works from his Upper World healing space. He does explain how he works in both his books.

[Crowan]

Originally Posted by butterflywings

Very very simply Jim Pathfinder Ewing sees Reiki as being a shamanic practice.

Okay, I accept that in an ideal world I would have time and money to read all these books. However, at the moment I haven't.
In what way is Reiki a shamanic practice? And, if it is, then isn't it just 'shamanism' rather than 'shamanic reiki'. If he's using the shamanic journey, then it's shamanism.
I'm not trying to be dense here. I've just don't understand how it can be a blending of the two. What is the definition of Reiki? Maybe that would make it clearer.