i am looking out for books or websites that link these two together and explain how to over come it and/or pin point when it started.
Its just a book or website i am looking for at the moment. any pointers would be great, I have got the book 'awaking your strongest self' but its not what i want, don't want to buy any more until i can see some more info on them.
Hi Sun rose
Hi It feels you just need to know that what you are looking for is also looking out for you. Even if you don't know what it Might be peace, awakening , joy whatever.... It is bound to find you. Thats how it works
Reading books on awakening etc are not terribly helpful as they just add to conceptual rubbish that one already has.
Stay put and relax into your urge to find...before long it will find you.
thanks Ruby, I have sat and thought and I am in circles.., or i am sat in the circle , or something like that....just so frustrating.. i cant even find the words to voice it properly, thats why i like to start with reading, it helps me relax and unlock my brain,
thing is I always feel i am 'one book away' from my eureka moment
thanks Ruby, I have sat and thought and I am in circles.., or i am sat in the circle , or something like that....just so frustrating.. i cant even find the words to voice it
thing is I always feel i am 'one book away' from my eureka moment
One book away syndrome is common. Peace cannot be found in books, but can help you forget the non-peace for a while... Trust your seeking. Frustration is because you want it now. It will come only when you relax. It is here, but you are rushing to get "there" is delaying it...
Relax. Recognise that it wants to come, or it won't have the inner pull it has...go find something fun to do. Get out of the way. Allow youself to wander off from this seeking. It is becoming a disease...
Right teaching comes when you are ready to receive it.
I sense its all coming. How can it be any other way? Deep down you must know it, don't you??
One book away syndrome is common. Peace cannot be found in books, but can help you forget the non-peace for a while... Trust your seeking. Frustration is because you want it now. It will come only when you relax. It is here, but you are rushing to get "there" is delaying it...
Relax. Recognise that it wants to come, or it won't have the inner pull it has...go find something fun to do. Get out of the way. Allow youself to wander off from this seeking. It is becoming a disease...
Right teaching comes when you are ready to receive it.
I sense its all coming. How can it be any other way? Deep down you must know it, don't you??
Oh Jnani when you speak i feel like a peaceful presence beside me..i wish i could have that in a book..
I have great difficullty to stop my ..addiction lets say...to searching....
i do have a place i go to stop my mind and it works for a while...but the same sabotage keeps raising its head gets flippin frustrating..
for some reason it made me smile when you said "Deep down you must know it don't you"..part of me wanted to say i think so, and part of me just wanted to laugh at my silliness!! of putting myself in this spot..again.
I was also always looking for a book to contain all the answers; for the 'eureka' moment you describe. It was an addiction, almost. Here's the telling thing though: MOST of the books I embarked upon I never finished reading. I did gain some interesting ways of looking at things, so I would say that there were bits and pieces of different books that I found helpful. Then I began to realise I was getting the same message over and over again, regurgitated and told with a different slant... I was beginning to get a bit tired and sceptical of these self-appointed 'teachers', so I'm DONE with the books. Unless one jumps out in front of me, I'm not going to bother looking. I simply re-visit what has inspired me so far and remain open to inspiration and continue to learn from people/life.
I still have some 'issues' - I do self-sabotaging habitually as I have a massive fear of failure, which probably draws failure back to me, but I recognise that. I am a horrendous worrier, bordering on neurosis... But Jnani's right, sometimes you really have to let go which allows things to click into place.
It's really hard, though. I'm still learning, still on this journey, still trying to improve my life. I think I already have most of the answers but just allowing fear to hold me back.
I've just thought about a funny thing about the books I've read over the years... Whenever called upon to do certain exercises, I would often skip them and think, 'oh I'll do that at the end', or in a couple of cases got 'stuck' and abandoned the book altogether without progressing.
Would love to hear of others who have OBAS ('one book away syndrome', lol).
Oh yes, OBAS - story of my life!! I consume books rather than read them...in a long running search for.......'something', not sure what though. I've always had the feeling that one day I am going to discover the crucial piece of the puzzle or the truth that I need to hear to sort me out (ha ha). And while I'm doing this part of me stands back thinking oh here we go again!
But...there is some discernment going on, like tigerlily there are some I just don't finish because they don't resonate with me at all or I just think they are complete tripe. Have also developed an aversion to books with long complicated exercises - it shouldn't be that difficult surely! And if it is, you can't learn it from a book.... I'm sure exercises like this are just the authors pet theories, made impossibly long and complex just because...... they are in a book and need to seem legitimate and important like a proper 'system'.
Funny thing is I think I have found what I'm looking for just recently (fingers crossed, touching wood etc) and I did get a nudge from a book but it was only a nudge that made me see something I've kind of known on some level for ages.
I'd say just accept your addiction to searching and trust that you will get there exactly when it is time for you to - you actually have a lot of self awareness because you see what you are doing so that is a good sign!
I'm sitting here chuckling at myself as I remember January 2011 New Years resolution - to give up self help books. Fast forward to February 2012 and there is a tower of them wobbling by the side of my bed!
I did get quite self righteous early last year, bit like a reformed smoker. A client used to come every month and feed me her latest self help find! I politely declined and said I'd given them up. So how come they have slowly started to infultrate my life again?!!! Perhaps they can invent patches for the serious addicted!
Thank you all for inspiring me... I'm off to shove them all in a dark cupboard... and go back to listening to the me without all the blinkin' clutter! x
I was also always looking for a book to contain all the answers; for the 'eureka' moment you describe. It was an addiction, almost. Here's the telling thing though: MOST of the books I embarked upon I never finished reading. I did gain some interesting ways of looking at things, so I would say that there were bits and pieces of different books that I found helpful. Then I began to realise I was getting the same message over and over again, regurgitated and told with a different slant... I was beginning to get a bit tired and sceptical of these self-appointed 'teachers', so I'm DONE with the books. Unless one jumps out in front of me, I'm not going to bother looking. I simply re-visit what has inspired me so far and remain open to inspiration and continue to learn from people/life.
I still have some 'issues' - I do self-sabotaging habitually as I have a massive fear of failure, which probably draws failure back to me, but I recognise that. I am a horrendous worrier, bordering on neurosis... But Jnani's right, sometimes you really have to let go which allows things to click into place.
It's really hard, though. I'm still learning, still on this journey, still trying to improve my life. I think I already have most of the answers but just allowing fear to hold me back.
I've just thought about a funny thing about the books I've read over the years... Whenever called upon to do certain exercises, I would often skip them and think, 'oh I'll do that at the end', or in a couple of cases got 'stuck' and abandoned the book altogether without progressing.
Would love to hear of others who have OBAS ('one book away syndrome', lol).
OBAS HAHA good that!
I have gained insights over the many years of reading many many books, i just love books, maybe i have become too dependent on them.., they can lift me from where I am to special places and take me on a journey i would never normally go on..that reminds me the latest 'self help' book ive just read is
Journey to You, Steve Olsher, like you i skipped over some of the exercises but i did do some ..and it did help a tidgy bit
I am a worrier too..i play out so many none existant 'possible' situations in my head before i know it I have a pounding heart, fists clenched and i cant see straight..haha....i am working on that too.!
Hello,
We all operate by unconscious patterns, it is the only way we can function efficiently. Our main pattern is in place by the time we are 6 years old, so if you learn unhealthy things about yourself, such as you are no good enough, then this becomes a central theme of the pattern.
As we mature we may have the conscious desire to improve our life and to be happier with ourself. the unconscious pattern accepts the conscious desire but places criteria upon it, so that you fail and prove the unconscious beliefs are correct.
For example for those that constantly find they are sabotaging their relationships. They may have the conscious desire of finding love. When asked what do you have to do to find love? The answer is usually 'I have to find my perfect partner'. This is the criteria that the unconscious adds to the desire. The person is happy as the criteria seems lovely and romantic and normal. But it is doomed to fail as there is no such thing as perfect and when they find what they think is the perfect partner, then the unconscious will slowly point out the flaws.
The pattern that has a belief such as you are not worthy (therefore of love as well) embedded, will have proof once the relationship fails, that they are indeed unworthy and will then inflict the "I told you so' etc.
The beliefs and the pattern need to be transformed, to provide the life that you desire.
But the catch is, that you have to be willing to change. You have approximately 80 summers to live, how many more are you will to live with self sabotage and no confidence. At the end of you days, what will you regret? It will be too late then.
I recommend Life Patterns the Secret to Emotional Freedom
Hello my warrior friends!
Not read this thread since I posted last time. Its becoming light and fun, so am writing again
Its funny most of you resonated with warrior bit. Yes, march away, never give up! Must improve yourself or life is not worth living...This is how mind has its tuppence worth in the flow. As if life itself is not enough. There is a pressure that is becoming social--to read, books, dig out hidden patterns, analyze... The pendulum is on the extreme right -working on yourself -is the in thing.
New age spirituality is to blame for screwing up people's natural suffering. Now a days everyone is a spiritual detective-busy looking for answers. It has just brought disenchantment with natural suffering. If you relax into suffering, it changes to flow again
The joke is you have no obligation to seek anything, its only your mind that keeps you on the tread mill, then it controls you beautifully. Life is a mystery, enjoy it, trying to figure out is sucking joy right out of it Take a break from spirituality, from getting better and rest of the rubbish, life might just catch up with you. Life does not require warriors, only open hearts
Good post Jnani, we are complete within the fullness of self.
The reality is that nothing is wrong, everything is exactly the way that we have decided it should be, one way of being will produce one set of symptoms for us to experience and another way of being will produce a different set of symptoms for us to experience.
The problem is quite simply that we keep locking our focus upon the symptoms that we are creating within consciousness and experiencing within our physicality, we then applying judgements to them, rather than just embracing what we are creating within consciousness.
There are no right or wrong existences, there are no right or wrong experiences,there is only one existence in which we can choose to embrace or reject whatever we choose to create within it.
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New age spirituality is to blame for screwing up people's natural suffering. Now a days everyone is a spiritual detective-busy looking for answers. It has just brought disenchantment with natural suffering. If you relax into suffering, it changes to flow again
The joke is you have no obligation to seek anything, its only your mind that keeps you on the tread mill, then it controls you beautifully. Life is a mystery, enjoy it, trying to figure out is sucking joy right out of it Take a break from spirituality, from getting better and rest of the rubbish, life might just catch up with you. Life does not require warriors, only open hearts
Totally agree, thanks for posting this, really resonates with me this morning!
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