Has anyone got the some problem as me. I have a smallish lump or hump on the back of my neck and I really hate it soooooo much, sometimes it is a little bigger than other times. I do suffer with neck pain, the problem is it's so ugly, I have seen it called a buffalow hump that sounds very attractive I must say, there must be someone else out there that has it, My Mum has a smaller one so it might be hereditary. I wish I could get rid of it, it has be come a bit of an obession!!
usually associated with forward head posture, can be successfully addressed with postural rehabiitation, where are you based , I could poss recommend someone to help. I tend to think it is not hereditary but more of a learned behaviour from you mother who in your formative years was your role model, therefore your posture may be linked to your mum's posture but only because you copied it.
How does it affect your activities for daily living, ? do you suffer headaches? are you round shouldered?
Gaz is thinking about a bony hump - but I have had a couple of clients who have a fatty hump on this area, and it's nothing to do with how they hold their head, it seems to be a fat storage pocket, and purely hereditary.
I wasn't thinking purely along the lines of bony prominences, I have had several clients over the past few years who have a muscular hypertrophy. This has been rectified with muscle balancing and postural reeducation, for those interested I have found weak rhomboids, lats, and stenocliedomastoid, combined with over active pecs, traps and lev scap. The use of a plumb line to assess posture usually throws up this forward head posture, incidently using the principle of levers, for every inch forward of the plumb line the ear appears, it will add approx 11lb to the weight of the head. Other symptomsmight be regular headaches, fibrous palpation over clavicular division of SCM. inability to keep chin level whilstrotating,inability to turn head fully thru' 90 degrees,discomfort whilst palpating mastoid process.elevated shoulder(s), rounded shoulders, inability to depress shoulders fully, or retract without elevating. hands in normal anatomical stance will be forward of midline, with possibiltiy of rotation at A/C joint indicative of rotator cuff imbalance. Forward head posture will usually be combined with excessive thoracic curve and a lack of thoracic rotation, approx 5 degrees rotation should be available from lumbar, the 4.5 degrees from each thoracic vertabra, other rotation comes from atlas/axis.
That said, I have had a single client with a "fatty" neck, not a usuall fat storage area, unless there is a lot of fat storage elsewhere.Without going back thru' notes I cannot remember what else I found with her.
Will investigate and report back with any newsworthy findings.
Wow, I have this exact same 'problem'! I suffer head-aches and have seen specialists & physiotherapists but still the head-aches come and go. My mum also has the 'hump' so I also just assumed it was hereditary.
Gaz, I live in South East London so if you can recommend me to anybody who can help I would very much appreciate it.
Dear Gaz, I agree with your wonderfully thorough analysis of this postural conditionand I'd saya goodly proportion of our computer-hunched, car-driving, slumped society suffer from this and that's why they need us.But my clients' fatty pockets weren't associated with this posture.
the great thing about this site is we get advice from all kinds of people with all kinds of skills, I read your posts with interest and as always respect your views, I guess I will keep an eye out for these "fatty deposits" and see if i can improve my consultation process to include any family links with this kind of condition.
If you want to PM me I will recommend therapists who might be in your area. I can also give you some advice if you give me details of what your symptoms are.
Regards to all.
I have always had a small lump on the back of my neck too.I don't know if it's the same thing or not (it's about the size of a brussel sprout!) & it gets bigger & smaller. I have always had it & always suffered from neck & back pain - I've been a dancer all my life so posture has never been a problem.
The bigger it gets, the more painful & tense my neck becomes, which often results in headaches etc.
I went to the doctors about it when I was about 6 & all I remember is that the doc said it wasn't anything to worry about. I've been thinking about going back to the docs about it recently as the neckpain & headaches that can come along with it get me down at times. I'm constantly asking my partner for neck-rubs! (Which probably doesn't do it any good but it makes it feel slightly better for the duration of the massage.)
Anyway, it's interesting to hear that it is hereditary (if I have the same thing as you) so I will inquire if either of my parents have it too.
this condition can bedevelomental, occupational or hereditory and even a mixture of the above.
Trying to address the condition with only exercise and postural advice is not always effective.
The condition tends to develope(in the soft tissues(muscles) at the neck shoulder junction)over a period of many years.Yourbody is reacting to the loadon this junction bythickening the fascia in an effort to provide more support to help the muscles cope. Thisinflamatory, painfull effect causes restriction of movement and a tendency to adopt a worsening posture.
Successfull recovery of range of movementand reduction in the size of the(dowergers) humpcan beobtained usingdeep massage techniques to break down the thickened tissue and release the resticted area.
This needs to be donefirst to allow posture re education/strengthening ect to be effective.
The treatment can be difficult to endure as the area is oftenalready enflamed and sensitive but the end results can be well worth the effort =
1/increased range of movement.
2/better postural alignment.
3/ resumtion of the opened back dress wardrobe.
Thank you all. I am not alone in this I see. I am going to look on line about this deep massage it sounds good. I live in Guildford so if there is anyone out there that does this in my area I would like to hear from them.
I do have a lot of pain in my neck, it sort of flares up, and sometimes get a headache, the lump does get smaller sometimes too. It also feels like fat, I am not over weight, I have seen it on over weight people, but I must say If I do have to much weight is always at the top, I am apple shape.
I have a very large painful lump on the back of my neck, which is swollen , it is quite painful, my shoulders are also painful.
Some years ago I went to the doctors with the problem, he was not interested and I think he put is down to the fact is that I am overweight which some doctors do, years on the hump has gone down my back its like a big V and the pain goes down my spine.
I cannot believe its just because of my weight because about 20 years ago, I was putting together a four door wardrobe on my own and I was putting the top of it was very heavy, I dropped it above my head and it fell on my back below my neck, it hurt, very much but with there being no bruise so I left it, this is where I think I must have damaged something. I might be totally wrong.
My friend had 2 of these, a 'lump' & a bigger 'hump' . He had been suffering neck & shoulder pain for years. (It seemed hereditary: his Dad had had similar, & suffered no further probs once they were surgically removed.)
My friend eventually had both lumps removed privately as a 1-day hospital patient.
1 large lump was sebacious, but old & hardened, so no way of getting rid of it without minor surgery.
The larger, softer one was lymphatic. Biopsies showed no probs. The scars healed up wonderfully, now hardly noticeable.
At last he is re-learning better posture, with the help of both Alexander Technique and Pilates (he goes privately, as he is shy of being the only man among women in the local group sessions!)
The shoulder-pain is beginning to ease. In his case, he has a slight skeletal deformity causing pressure on nerves, but without this I'm guessing he would be totally pain-free by now!
are we talking about dowagers humps? if so i also have one and suffer from very regular headaches and migraines and awful neck and shoulder tension. i have been told that it is not down to this but to be honest i cannot see how it doesnt have some effect as alreday said, the head is more forward and therefore is putting more strain on the neck. it is also horrible looking! although most people say they dont notice it. (think they are being kind. i never wear low tops at the back because of it. my mum, aunt and another female in their family also had one.
Wow. I love the exchange of learning on this site. Some really helpful stuff on this thread. Thank you. I have seen this on quite a few people I've massaged and not always folks of 'an age'. Regular massage around the area and encouraging increased mobility does seem to help to reduce it in some cases...but yeah I think certain illnesses can have this as a sympton too and some medication may lead to it. It may be a dowager's hump, buffalo hump, inflamation, non malignant fatty lump...hadn't considered a hereditary factor but would agree that postural analysis might highlight if there's scope for working on that too and could be a major contributory factor. Got to be worth a try. You are beautiful as you are and maybe you could try EFT if you find yourself feeling down about it? x
I'm only 19 and I've had a neck hump for as long as I can remember, it's so embarrassing at dances and anytime I don't wear a collared shirt. (which is what I've been hiding behind. I live in Milwaukee, WI during the school year but go back to around Green Bay, WI to go back home. Where can I go to get one of these deep massages? I have really poor posture but I have tried exercise sometimes (I'm not good at doing it regularly), but when I do my back feels stronger
help! i'm 18 and have a bony hump on back of neck. its like a permanent slouch. its probably due to bad posture but when i straighten up it starts to hurt after five minutes so have to slouch again. when i feel it its kind of hand and can feel my backbone. i really wanna try some exercises of things i can do at home to fix it but dont know what to do. if u have any advice or tips on how to fix it then please help!!
Im 19 and have had hump since i was little...when my mum took me to the doctor she said bacause i am tall its looking down all the time lol basicly she said posture....i recently have baught a zen chi maschine (which is supost 2 help with posture) it has helped a bit but iv stopped using it for now as iv been busy...it also helps with back pain and head aches/migraine and so many other things i would recomend it, i think mind is mostly fat now....does any body know how to get rid of that?
I always wear my hair down as im so ashamed of it...it is horrible and i know how you must feel...id give anything to wear my hair up for a change.
If you want to know anything else feel free to PM me
I'm not alone too then! I have some variation of buffalo hump - mostly neck area. Know anyone in Northern Ireland that can help Biggaz lol
In my case I would say partly heriditary - my paternal grandmother has this, well think hers is a dowagers hump - but also postural. I'm quite big chested so I know a lot of pressure is on spine plus I tend to be pulled forward so I guess my neck's got used to this position. I'm 33 and recently diagnosed with fibromyalgia so I reckon I'm gonna be stuck with this forever and dificult enough just to get out of bed some days never mind do exercises lol.
I will have a look on my database and see if I can recommend soemone in NI, . on another level tho' I dont suppose you have a lot of "diet" products in your diet do you as there is some anecdotal evidence that some fibromyalgia has been misdiagnosed and could acually be aspartame linked, try researching "the sweet poison" it may be worth looking at.
incidently for every inch of forward head posture the relative head weight is increased by eleven pounds, so your spinal pressure is explainable. it is also reasonably easy to counter with some functional exercise, not necessarily the gym or hours of workouts, just some common sense approaches to using muscles correctly.
all the best anyway,regards