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[Paul Crick]

Hi Laurent

A very comprehensive reply outlining Feng Shui.

The way that I perceive things is that there are only two certainties in this life, the first is that we are born and the second is that we die, everything in between these two certainties is transmutable.

Now when I look at what you term the three lucks (and I personally do not perceive that I form my reality around luck) which would make me dependant upon chance, which I have to admit when I was younger and life kept biting me in the backside it did appear that way, but now I have a different understanding which works upon design rather than chance.

You outlined the first luck as:

Heaven luck = our karma given at birth and the help we can get from the spiritual realm

I perceive that we choose the type of parents and the type of lifestyle that we wish to experience, as well as any challenges that we might wish to have a go at overcoming before we come here.

As for help, we all get the same nonjudgmental help to create whatever our underlying thought patterns and beliefs are showing the oneness of consciousness (my take on spirit) that we wish to experience, in each complete experience as we experience it. There is no right or wrong in this equation, we are free to experience whatever we choose to experience in whatever way that we chose to experience it; should the experience end our existence here, then that is an experience in itself.

You outlined the second luck as:

Human luck = our free will, intentions, energy levels, our choices to build a different karma

I perceive this as our thoughts create our realities, or to put it into the correct terminology then as above, it is actually our underlying thought patterns and beliefs which has the power to mould reality around them, our everyday aspect of consciousness (thinking mind) might well be at odds to our core way of being, so saying to ourself that I want something, when our core way of being believes that we are not good enough to get it, will not let it happen very easily.

You then outlined the third luck as:

Earth luck= the influence of Earth on our lives, this is what Feng Shui deals with.

I perceive this as a two way street, the living planet can exercise influences upon our life choices, but then our life choices can also influence the planet.

It is a problem of modern living where people have lost contact with the natural rhythms of the world that we live with, I do not perceive us as being separate from the planet or what people call spirit, I perceive it all as one, when we are in harmony and experiencing oneness, then life flows naturally with little effort, but when we are in disharmony or division then life becomes a difficult task master.

So yes as you say if we chose to live in the shadow of a volcano because of the fertile land, then we might experience it exploding within our midst, the same as if we choose to live in flood plane because the minerals that the floods provide make fertile soil, then we should not be surprised when our home gets flooded, then next time the planet supplies us with the minerals that we so eagerly desire to grow our crops.

As you said in your post, people can change what you perceive as their karma, I perceive that everything begins and ends with a thought and our underlying thought patterns and beliefs creates or orchestrates our experiences upon this planet, so in this case, there are two things that can change, one is the location and the other is what you perceive as changing their karma and I perceive as transforming their underlying thought patterns and beliefs (core way of being) to create a new environment for them to reside in where they are.

Although we perceive and express things from a different perspective within our different understandings, at the end of the day, you say that what you perceive as their karma can be changed to accommodate the location, much the same as I perceive that their core way of being can be changed to accommodate the location, or they can move, we appear to have reached the same conclusion, so our thoughts are not that dissimilar.

[Laurent]

Thanks for this answer Paul. I actually think that we have slightly different views if I understand you correctly.
To summarize in Taoism sky is NOT the limit - our karmic boundaries in this lifetime are our limits. Thoughts do not create our whole reality; reality has been created by other forces and thoughts can give us a pleasant our unpleasant experience inside this reality. And thoughts will not be able to transcend some physical evidence and influences - hence Feng Shui (once again, gravity - you can have the most positive outlook you can hardly get rid of it with your thought - so how is that part of reality created by your thoughts?).
As for choices made in the other realm before the incarnation, perhaps - I like this idea - but I still think the choices are guided or limited by the previous karma; basically we might have choices but inside boundaries we have made for ourselves through our previous incarnations. It would be a misunderstanding to present the Chinese philosophy as all is down to free will and thought create our reality as this is not its point of view, at all. Just to clarify.

[Paul Crick]

Hi Laurent

Yes, obviously we do have differing understandings, if you put a thousand year old tradition against something that has been conceived within half a life span, then there are bound to be differences, but a lot of that is down to terminology and perception.

I think you need a new analogy, your gravity one has been overcome by some people who used their thoughts to created space ships, which do allow people to escape this planet's gravitational force.

I would like you to try and visualise an existence without judgement and blame (karma), where our thoughts can become reality, but in order for this to happen, we need to take full responsibility for them first.

[Crowan]

Originally Posted by Paul Crick

The way that I perceive things is that there are only two certainties in this life, the first is that we are born and the second is that we die, everything in between these two certainties is transmutable.

Are you saying here that the circumstances into which one is born has no bearing on how life pans out? From your further comment ...

Originally Posted by Paul Crick

I perceive that we choose the type of parents and the type of lifestyle that we wish to experience, as well as any challenges that we might wish to have a go at overcoming before we come here.

... I would guess so. My experience and conversations with my Spirit Teachers tell me otherwise. I doubt that we are ever going to come to agreement over this.

[Kiga]

Please excuse me for interrupting here, but from what I've read on Shamanism (including of course your own book, Crowan), I was under the impression that souls do actually have an input regarding their next lives before they're born again. Surely that's similar to what Paul believes?

[Crowan]

Hi Kiga,

No problem with the interruption, but I've answered it over on the 'Shamanism' forum, as it's getting a bit off-topic here.

Jane

[Paul Crick]

Hi Crowan

Are you saying here that the circumstances into which one is born has no bearing on how life pans out?

The circumstances in which we chose to be born only gives us a starting point in which to begin forming our life experiences.

We can be born with a silver spoon in our mouths and end up starving to death as a vagrant under a bush at the side of the road, alternatively we can be born into poverty and end up as a multi billionaire, with every comfort that we could desire, nothing is set in stone unless we choose to make it that way.

We come with a free will, it is our personal choices that are directly influenced by our underlying thought patterns and beliefs, which dictates how we make use of it to create our own realities.

[Crowan]

Originally Posted by Paul Crick

we can be born into poverty and end up as a multi billionaire, with every comfort that we could desire

Not very common. And a few being wealthy depends on many being poor.

And where does ability come into that? What about people born with learning disabilities, for example?

[Paul Crick]

Hi Crowan

Not very common. And a few being wealthy depends on many being poor.

If you think about that statement, then if we choose to embrace that understanding within the fullness of self, then that will limit us to the choices that are available within that belief, which explains why it is not very common for people to overcome their teachings, we have to perceive that something is possible before we can choose to set about creating it.

And where does ability come into that? What about people born with learning disabilities, for example?

To my understanding, there are no right or wrong experiences here, there is only the experience that we have chosen to experience for ourselves.

We can choose to come and experience such a diverse range of experiences, by choosing which time frame, nationality, gender and general state of being we wish to explore with each visit, the permutations are endless.