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Old 4th November 2011, 06:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello Hp'ers,

I have read many testimonials on the net how great EFT is, and how it has helped with a variety of conditions and it always seems pupular on here. But, I am curious has anyone anything adverse to say about it....is it always effective... or is it just taken it hasn't been done properly if a given condition/situation hasn't improved.

Just curious....
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Old 4th November 2011, 07:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Fleur,

No it doesn't work 100%, but a very high percentage of time in my experience.
The level of efficacy depends on a huge range of factors (like with any other treatment), especially:
  • client's readiness for the particular change they are seeking
  • relationship between therapist and client
  • therapist's quality of attention and observation
  • type and complexity of problem
  • the length of session (persistence helps, though you can get a 1-minute wonder most problems require perseverance)
  • the frequency of tapping (some problems may vanish after one session but others may require many sessions with therapist or/and of self-help tapping)
+ numerous other factors could be playing a role

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I had a quick treatment with it before and even I noticed the difference, I would happily look into it some more
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I had a quick treatment with it before and even I noticed the difference, I would happily look into it some more
Hi Fleur

I'd agree with Masha. Gary Craig says it is successful in about 90% of cases when all the parameters are adhered to as set out by him. For any treatment this is an astonishing result. Lack of persistence and not getting to the core of the core of the matter are two of the main reasons why it may not work for beginners. With Masha's experience the results will be so much better!
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I have a fear of needles and hospitals, I needed a lump removing and I saw a counsellor who taught me the process and unfortunately we didn't manage to cope with my issue fully so when the day came for the lump to be removed I melted into a heap of hysterics and it wasn't done.

4 years later I decided it was time to get the lump removed and so did a lot of EFT treatment on myself without the counsellor. This time it worked and I managed to get through 3 operations to get the lump and the resulting cancer affected tissue around it removed. Last year I had a 4th Op in the area for a small lump (not cancer thankfully) and I got through that too even though I did swear a bit at the registrar. (oops).

I am still scared of needles, but I now know that should I have to have needle or hospital treatment again, EFT will help me through it. It hasn't cured my phobia but it has dealt with the anxiety and panic attacks that occur when a medical procedure is on the cards.

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Old 14th November 2011, 07:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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is it just taken it hasn't been done properly if a given condition/situation hasn't improved.

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Hi there,

With EFT, you should be getting partial results along the way immediately. For example, if someone has a fear of mice, in the first session itself a good and experienced practitioner may have chosen to work on one, more, or all of these example aspects (which I plucked out of previous client experiences as examples) and reduced them in intensity (preferably to zero):
  • One time that a mouse was encountered
  • A parent´s fear of mice and the need to mimic their behaviour
  • An incident of being abused or bullied as a child
  • A death in the family
  • Fear of being bitten and given disease
If any aspects remain, then the fear of mice remains, although it may be reduced, depending on the number of aspects. The fear of mice remains until every single aspect has been released. And when that happens, the fear of mice completely disappears. It may take 1 session, or it may take 2 years. It all depends on the number of aspects.

If someone has schizophrenia or psychosis, EFT is unlikely to work. This is because in this case, the person´s energy is so disrupted that the EFT cannot normalize it.

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Old 18th November 2011, 10:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts .

I have now had my EFT level 1 and 2 training......and what a revelation this therapy is!

I think I would like to buy one of the Magical Tapping Bears...does anyone on here use them. Linda Wood ran her last workshop the same date I was on the EFT training....I have made enquiries when she is running her next one. She isn't too far away for me to travel...... feel very excited by all this.

I just wonder why I didn't do it sooner!

Although, having completed one year of counselling studies....I think for my inquisitive mind it is probably better that I did that first anyway.
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I think I would like to buy one of the Magical Tapping Bears...does anyone on here use them. Linda Wood ran her last workshop the same date I was on the EFT training....I have made enquiries when she is running her next one. She isn't too far away for me to travel...... feel very excited by all this.
Linda's Magic Buttons bear's are truly wonderful indeed (I prefer them to the American version "Tappy Bear") - I was hesitating in getting my first one some years ago as it wasn't cheap by any means, but as soon as I held it in my hands I was hooked. It is fantastic for EFT with children as well as adults, surrogate tapping for people or animals, and for tapping with yourself. If you can get a chance to get to Linda's course on tapping with bears, I would highly recommended, she has quite a unique style.

My first bear has now travelled to quite a few places around the world when I teaching EFT Level 2 abroad - this brings slight incoveniences to packing in that I cannot bring myself to put him away inside a bag because he seems so very much "alive", as if he has a soul, so I have to have his head sticking out of my rucksack or holdall

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Hello Masha..

I have e mailed Linda - she is moving back to America.....but will let me know when she is running more workshops....she will have to travel back here.....oh yes.... she must ;-)

She is in the process of making a few more bears and will let me know when she has some available, but she has a few on her website....but I am waiting to see what her new additions are before I choose.

The idea of your Magic bear looking out from your rucksack made me smile....., but I can imagine they have a life of their own....that's why it's important to choose the right one for resonance.
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I too am curious about this. Does anyone have a link to the science behind EFT or does it work in the same way as reiki in that it really only seems to work on people that are open or suggestive to it. And if so why should it work that way..
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I too am curious about this. Does anyone have a link to the science behind EFT or does it work in the same way as reiki in that it really only seems to work on people that are open or suggestive to it. And if so why should it work that way..
In my clinical experience EFT does not require client's belief in it / placebo effect for it to work well. I was a hardened sceptic myself when I first reluctantly tried it some years ago, and many of my clients are extremely sceptical; they still get positive results most of the time (I am not talking about 100% "cure"). Believing in EFT does help a bit when I give clients homework to tap for themselves (if they are not open to it, they won't do it, even if we get really good outcomes in the sessions!)

There is a useful summary of some scientific evidence and background theory here http://www.innersource.net/ep/epresearch.html

A list of all research papers published on EFT and related approaches here: Research

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Hi Masha that's an interesting article but if I read correctly being receptive to it from a psychological point of view helps. With so many healing modalities out there with clearly enough people benefiting from it. Just wonder when the time organisations like the NHS etc become open to offering it. As far as I know nothing except accupressure, accupuncture are used in some trusts, but not things like EFT. Here's hoping
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Hi Masha that's an interesting article but if I read correctly being receptive to it from a psychological point of view helps. With so many healing modalities out there with clearly enough people benefiting from it. Just wonder when the time organisations like the NHS etc become open to offering it. As far as I know nothing except accupressure, accupuncture are used in some trusts, but not things like EFT. Here's hoping
I think being receptive to ANY therapy or technique generally helps it's effectiveness . Not every technique or ritual will suit every person, but when it does suit it certainly helps it along.

EFT is already used in many departments in the NHS, often "undercover" by individual trained psychotherapists, psychologists, nurses, some psychiatrists and GPs, but also "officially" in a number of places. For example, I work as a psychotherapist in Derbyshire NHS where our staff support service offers EFT alongside other psychotherapeutic approaches (our clients are doctors, nurses, admin staff etc) and it is also used extensively with patients by many clinical psychologists in Derbyshire Health Psychology department in the same NHS trust.

EFT has also been used for years in Forth Valley NHS Behavioural Psychology service, who has recently conducted some clinical trials on comparison of EFT with EMDR (the latter recommended by National Institute for Clinical Excellence) for post-traumatic stress, and the outcome of the research was that the efficacy of the two approaches was comparable.

I have trained some hundreds of individual NHS professionals and some teams specialising in eating disorders, addictions, mental health, from quite a number of trusts around the country, and many of my fellow EFT trainers would have been working with similar audiences over the years. So EFT is more widespead in the NHS than it may seem, though NICE approval is probably still a few years off, as the research evidence is still patchy and of variable quality.

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I don't think it is what the client believes, so much as what they think. (Subtle difference, I know, but different, in my opinion, nonetheless.)

And not so much what they think about EFT, as, more importantly, what they think about themselves.

If I think I cannot be helped, then nothing will help me.

I've had clients come for EFT where it hasn't 'worked', not because they didn't believe in it (they were there with me for a treatment, after all), but because they had not shifted their thinking about themselves and their situation, and were convinced they were beyond help.

With my 'successful' clients, I have noticed that during the 'chat' before the EFT, their thinking has shifted somewhat, then we do the EFT and, Hey Presto!!

Actually, it makes me wonder if the EFT is necessary? I'm working on that!
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Well done Derek, your understanding is sound, keep going, you are getting there.
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Well done Derek, your understanding is sound, keep going, you are getting there.
Thank you, Paul! I'm loving the journey, and I've had some good help along the way
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Actually, it makes me wonder if the EFT is necessary? I'm working on that!
No matter how much I love EFT, I would concede that it is not necessary, same as for any other ritual, Nevertheless I do feel rituals can be very useful (rather than essential) in many different circumstances, and EFT happens to be one of the most useful tools I know (but I am obviously biased )

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As a person who received EFT on the NHS and when the lady took me through the scenario I was very sceptical. It didn't work for me the first time, though I did feel that my fear and anxiety had been reduced a great deal.

I now perform the EFT scenario when I have to face the hospital and/or injection/blood test. It is part of the process I feel I "have" to follow now to help me through. If I don't then I feel that I cannot get through the anxiety barrier. It may be mind over matter but the ritual of tapping provides me with a sense of "doing something" to help me control myself where before I would lose control due to the anxiety attacks.

For me EFT is crucial to help me through the difficult tests I've had to have, its gotten me through my operations to remove the cancer. Had I not learnt the routine/ritual, I would still have that cancer in my leg, growing and disfiguring me.

EFT has helped me and has changed my life. It hasn't cured me of my fears, but it gives me a sense of being able to control my reaction to those fears.

I love EFT and one day I would like to be able to train to be a practitioner to provide it as a tool for others.
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Hi I haven't been on HP since 2008 I think!! Good grief!!!

EFT, - I first came across EFT as a recommendation from a therapist in the practice that I worked in up North. It was recommended to me as a way of dealing with I guess my "uptight" state of mind. I didn't take to it then at all. My mind just couldn't accept it. It was like standing on the other side of the glass door.

Fast forward to 2012 and I took a self-help day course down here, living in the South now, and it sits with me so much better. I've also picked up meditation along the way too.

I may well do the next course, not necessarily to become a practitioner; I haven't professionally practiced my therapies now for nearly 18 months, but to put balance back in my life.

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